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Meat Engine · Post by **Meat Engine** » 28 Jun 2010, 04:46

The new album will either be the best thing of the year or a colossal disappointment. After so many years, can there be a middle ground?

xpocalypse · Post by **xpocalypse** » 28 Jun 2010, 04:50

it might be just good/decent, which is not good enough for me

Meat Engine · Post by **Meat Engine** » 28 Jun 2010, 04:53

That's my point. If they wait this long to release another Gateways or Heretic, can people be blamed for feeling huge disappointment?

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 28 Jun 2010, 05:04

can people reasonably expect something as good as the classics?

i think not

and i think you all ducking know it

Meat Engine · Post by **Meat Engine** » 28 Jun 2010, 05:17

I am actually hoping for something new. I am eager to hear how Trey incorporates the influences of electronic music into this new album.

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 28 Jun 2010, 12:27

I have high hopes for this album. You know why? Because Nevermore is a fucking great song. The studio version of that song will be even better. Since Dave has been in the band for many years now, he will undoubtedly give his creative input. Sure his voice isn't as good as it used to be, Trey must have consulted Dave on many things. Also, Trey's new electronic influences will create a surprise.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 29 Jun 2010, 07:46

[quote name="IRONMAN"] Nevermore is a fucking great song. [/quote]

I wouldn't go that far.

zim · Post by **zim** » 29 Jun 2010, 07:48

i thought it was a really cool song, it had a big heretic vibe and i'm a big fan of that album

i just really hope he doesn't do those "whoa-o-o-o-oh's" on the studio version.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 29 Jun 2010, 07:51

If you really compare it to the rest of their catalogue it's pretty average.

zim · Post by **zim** » 29 Jun 2010, 07:53

go be a downer somewhere else

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 29 Jun 2010, 07:54

Nah,get some 12-52s.

Meat Engine · Post by **Meat Engine** » 29 Jun 2010, 08:00

I gave Nevermore a good listen and here are my thoughts:

1. It's a very solid track. It may be a bit long to be a death metal "single", but it's definitely the kind of song that could follow some sort of intro.

2. Dave being his own echo effect is just awesome.

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 29 Jun 2010, 08:40

[quote name="zimberly"]i just really hope he doesn't do those "whoa-o-o-o-oh's" on the studio version.[/quote]

you know he will.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 29 Jun 2010, 09:20

i like Nevermore until they finish the break/bridge (which I think is very cool!)... when they go back to the main riff / verse / chorus it just gets boring to me... there's nothing new there, only the same parts as in the beginning. Some cool harmonies in the guitar riffs would make it more interesting maybe... but overall I like it, even David's clean parts.

Uni777 · Post by **Uni777** » 29 Jun 2010, 16:21

[quote name="Void"]i like Nevermore until they finish the break/bridge (which I think is very cool!)... when they go back to the main riff / verse / chorus it just gets boring to me... there's nothing new there, only the same parts as in the beginning.[/quote]

You beat me to it.. Somehow it seems as if the inspiration stopped at that point. I always had the hope the song would be rearranged for I but i doubt it.

Even if they write the best album they possibly can many will think it is not up to par with the classics.

I hope David has some input arrangement wise. IMO H had a lot of cool things going on in the songs but some of them could have used a more clear focus as where they were going instead of just bubbeling along.. Just my opinion feel free to disagree.

What i like to hear on I in a nutshell: A killer wall of guitars that sound articulate, not like a can of bees. A awesome vocal production; David has a great and unique voice... take time to make it shine. A drumkit which sounds like a drumkit, don't care if it sounds snappy or not but make it sound natural. And last some good old lyrics that inspire in good old MA fashion.

And please, please, please, decent cover art.

Anjel · Post by **Anjel** » 29 Jun 2010, 18:32

You forgot the bass.

zim · Post by **zim** » 30 Jun 2010, 00:26

ooooooh!

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 30 Jun 2010, 07:38

[youtube]zypZWRB0ico[/youtube]

pro shot

zim · Post by **zim** » 30 Jun 2010, 08:13

the part that starts at 2:40 is fucking awesome

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 30 Jun 2010, 09:14

[quote name="Lumbergh"][youtube]zypZWRB0ico[/youtube]

pro shot[/quote]

it's like the camera/editor thought the solo was done by Thor as they didn't even cut to Trey at all during the solo....

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 30 Jun 2010, 09:33

they didn't really film Trey at all during the entire show...

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 30 Jun 2010, 09:49

that seems to happen a lot when bands are filmed and it's not directed by them.

i've noticed with other bands too where the guitarist will burst into a solo and they'll cut to the...drummer.

Haunty · Post by **Haunty** » 30 Jun 2010, 13:58

I prefer this version. The sound is just...better somehow. Not more hi-fi, but...I can't really explain it. The vocals are better, and the dude with the camcorder knows who to point it at.

[youtube]xRB_b4GHgzA[/youtube]

Also, deep voice is deep.

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 30 Jun 2010, 22:40

Holy shit!!! Gargulec that was an awesome recording of Nevermore! Why did you take off the link?!

Too late though, buddy. I downloaded it. This is so awesome, you can hear the song so clearly and really appreciate the intensity and complexity of this song. It's so crushing, after hearing this, I'm convinced this album is going to be the next Formulas!

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 30 Jun 2010, 22:52

Bullshit! There's no one like that here. Put it up immediately!

If you don't, I'll distribute this anyway! It's a crime to keep this monster all to yourself.

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 30 Jun 2010, 22:56

Honestly I'm more excited now than ever before for the new MA album

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 30 Jun 2010, 23:22

By the way Gargulec, do you know that Richard Brunelle posts here?

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 12 Jul 2010, 20:43

I am very curious about what influences Thor brings to the MA style.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 13 Jul 2010, 01:20

is it even certain he's part of the songwriting process/album recordings now?

Mr. P · Post by **Mr. P** » 13 Jul 2010, 02:19

I could think that he will play few solos as a special guest but that's it.

Anjel · Post by **Anjel** » 13 Jul 2010, 03:14

Maybe Erik would do something too? Like he did a lead on CC's latest and I think it was Annotation of an autopsy he did some guest vocals on too.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Jul 2010, 06:30

Nothing against Thor but I hope he has nothing to do with the song writing at all.His solos just don't fit like Richard's or Erik's did in the passed.

Cybermetatron · Post by **Cybermetatron** » 14 Jul 2010, 13:58

[quote name="mabb_"]Nothing against Thor but I hope he has nothing to do with the song writing at all.His solos just don't fit like Richard's or Erik's did in the passed.[/quote]

Me too !!

I really like what Erik did, he's a great musician, but in my opinion Richard's solos were even better ! They are more chaotic and fit Trey's style.

Desoppus · Post by **Desoppus** » 17 Jul 2010, 00:00

[quote name="mabb_"]Nothing against Thor but I hope he has nothing to do with the song writing at all.His solos just don't fit like Richard's or Erik's did in the passed.[/quote]

Yeah, and some of Richard´s solos is better than Trey´s. I agree that Thor´s solos don´t fit to MA very well but I believe he will surprise us all on the new album.

zim · Post by **zim** » 17 Jul 2010, 00:24

I think that Erik's solos kicked ass on every MA album recording he preformed on, but sometimes live it wasn't as great.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 17 Jul 2010, 19:28

[quote name="Void"]is it even certain he's part of the songwriting process/album recordings now?[/quote]

Actually I guess not, since the drumparts are pre-recorded and Trey and David are now together in the studio.

MA recordings have always been a group effort.

My impression is that Thor is only the live guitarist since they couldn't get that other hard-on bearer who's name I forgot.

Godsdefeat · Post by **Godsdefeat** » 20 Jul 2010, 00:13

[quote name="The Fu Monster"]The new album will either be the best thing of the year or a colossal disappointment. After so many years, can there be a middle ground?[/quote]

I remembere after Altars came out the whole DM press and fans where wondering what they would come up with after a milstone like that. Well, I guess they blew everyone away with Blessed.

I am very confident that it will crush

zim · Post by **zim** » 20 Jul 2010, 00:22

Weren't a lot of people saying that MA had sold out or some shit when the released blessed?

Godsdefeat · Post by **Godsdefeat** » 20 Jul 2010, 00:30

[quote name="zimberly"]Weren't a lot of people saying that MA had sold out or some shit when the released blessed?[/quote]

One of the greatest follow up records ever is what I remember as the general opinion. But I'm sure some people would have a different opinion

Uni777 · Post by **Uni777** » 20 Jul 2010, 23:28

[quote name="Godsdefeat"]
[quote name="zimberly"]Weren't a lot of people saying that MA had sold out or some shit when the released blessed?[/quote]

One of the greatest follow up records ever is what I remember as the general opinion. But I'm sure some people would have a different opinion[/quote]

Well I remember differently. A lot of people did not get it. And a lot of reviews were negative.

A lot of folks found it to slow.

It was definately not an instand classic. Read the liner notes in the reissue. Trey elaborates on it.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 21 Jul 2010, 20:16

At that time I only read Aardschok magazine.

Robert Heeg gave Blessed are the sick a 10/10 just like Wim Baelus did for Altars.

He praised them for not copiing themselves and said something like this: "It's not the full frontal attack like Altars, it's like creeping up with a knifestab in the back: equally deadly".

I still think it was the correct observation.

Lieutenant Ripley · Post by **Lieutenant Ripley** » 28 Jul 2010, 13:36

the new album i will listen to lots

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 28 Jul 2010, 14:20

hey welcome new lady

Lieutenant Ripley · Post by **Lieutenant Ripley** » 28 Jul 2010, 14:24