Is Biden going to drop out, yes or no?

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 04 Jul 2024, 20:56

What's your vote? And as a side question, if you think he will, who will take his place?

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 04 Jul 2024, 23:07

really impossible to say. he has a whole network of powerful people who rely on his occupying the office who have a strong interest in maintaining their position, and who are hard at work cajoling him into staying on. it was clear five years ago he was no longer fit to govern, which of course is a major reason why he was coronated, a reagan type figure who's even more feeble and can make it over the finish line is a very valuable thing indeed. but it's abundantly clear now that he doesn't have the juice to barely scrape by one more time.

the current chatter favors kamala harris as the successor should he drop out, which would definitely be the funniest possible outcome (especially after having sidelined her almost immediately and then keeping her under the radar for basically the entire term because she has become fully insane).

i'm not sure it even matters, at this juncture it seems like it would require a bona fide act of divine intervention for the democrats to hold on to the presidency. but four months is a long time in presidential politics i guess

Ryeknow · Post by **Ryeknow** » 05 Jul 2024, 00:35

Not likely

Hypothetically: flavor flav or brett michaels

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 05 Jul 2024, 00:35

No and it would be fundamentally stupid to do so as it would absolutely guarantee a bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea win. The right wing media is pushing this hard and anyone that takes it seriously is a damn fool.

Btw, i’m not voting for Biden as much as I’m voting for his administration and against republicans. That’s what it really comes down to. Is it ideal? No. But at this point it doesn’t matter. Non Serviam chirstofascists.

Methuselah Honeysuckle · Post by **Methuselah Honeysuckle** » 05 Jul 2024, 01:03

Just burn it all down

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 05 Jul 2024, 01:13

i think you are drastically overestimating biden's capacity to win. he barely, barely eked out a victory under extraordinarily favorable circumstances, and we are a very long ways from those in 2024. the fact is, this was inevitable, everyone knew it, and went along with it anyway. the dems are going to lose to a deeply unpopular (and in a normal world, eminently defeatable) opponent, because they have not once considered seriously that they need to actually try to win.

User · Post by **User** » 05 Jul 2024, 04:14

USA! USA!

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 05 Jul 2024, 06:56

We are fucked regardless

Methuselah Honeysuckle · Post by **Methuselah Honeysuckle** » 05 Jul 2024, 07:30

Noyka wrote: ↑
05 Jul 2024, 06:56
We are fucked regardless

Absolutely correct

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 05 Jul 2024, 22:24

I think it needs to be taken seriously that Kamala Harris may replace Biden

Ryeknow · Post by **Ryeknow** » 12 Jul 2024, 16:24

I guess he will beat him again in 2020

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 18 Jul 2024, 02:13

biden will probably be dead within 2 years

User · Post by **User** » 18 Jul 2024, 08:36

what a way to go out

zim · Post by **zim** » 18 Jul 2024, 20:38

he has covid now

Ryeknow · Post by **Ryeknow** » 18 Jul 2024, 22:26

He's getting ready to drop out

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 18 Jul 2024, 22:33

zim wrote: ↑
18 Jul 2024, 20:38
he has covid now

boarded af1 maskless and nobody in the entourage was taking precautions either. 100% faking it to get out of a public appearance

zim · Post by **zim** » 19 Jul 2024, 00:20

he needs to use it as an excuse to drop out

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 19 Jul 2024, 01:23

He's going to drop out. The media is totally focused on his frailty now and is not going to let up. Every day the camera's on him, he looks like he's going to stumble and fall down or something.

Ryeknow · Post by **Ryeknow** » 19 Jul 2024, 01:31

Who will take his place, kamala?

If so, bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea will still win

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 19 Jul 2024, 01:57

it's question of who has a credible shot that can also get donors to line up, and that list is looking nonexistent. it is absolutely not harris, who was so wildly unpopular within her own party that despite months of media and internet platforms trying to make her happen, was forced to drop out in december '19 before a single primary vote was cast. i believe at the time, she was polling at about 2% among primary voters. anyone who thinks she's a contender in a general election is fucking delusional

at this point they're probably better off punting the presidency and dumping whatever they can into trying to get control of the house back which would hypothetically give them a chance to deny a republican legislative agenda. but seeing as the democrats love compromise for its own sake, i don't think they'd even do that in the event they secured the necessary majority

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 19 Jul 2024, 18:56

You keep making the wrong bets. Not too long ago you were saying Biden wasn't going to drop out.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 19 Jul 2024, 19:39

i didn't make any directional bets on this specific matter precisely because "four months is a long time in presidential politics"

Ninny · Post by **Ninny** » 19 Jul 2024, 21:36

What about Gavin Newsom? Looks nice, still young

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 19 Jul 2024, 23:50

stormy, what was our bet?

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 20 Jul 2024, 00:09

the wager is 20 euro, you took the 'bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea loses or declines to run' position. he has not declined to run, and he is the republican nominee, so the bet is still on. we were about 3mm away from having to invoke the force majeure clause last weekend though

slugbait · Post by **slugbait** » 20 Jul 2024, 06:06

Ryeknow wrote: ↑
19 Jul 2024, 01:31
Who will take his place, kamala?

If so, bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea will still win

We're so fucked if they try to run her. People in her own party can't even stand her.

I can see Buttigieg or Cory Booker possibly getting enough steam behind them to be decent contenders. But the DNC is dumb as all what, so they'll probably try to put up someone who will maintain the status quo without giving the voters what they were promised, again.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 20 Jul 2024, 08:56

funny you mention mayor pete, a fellating lover of mine messaged me about him earlier today. we agreed we mostly forgot he existed ever since he took his sinecure. and also agreed that he is absolutely seething that his name hasn't been floated as a replacement. my view is that he won't be, because he has avoided the spotlight quite deliberately because he mostly has not bothered to govern from his perch, which is a very powerful one. whatever momentum he built in 2020 is spent and he has little hope of rebuilding it. little ratfuck, i hope he fades immediately into obscurity.

"iowa, you have shocked the nation!" -second place contestant pete buttigieg

shadowalk · Post by **shadowalk** » 20 Jul 2024, 10:41

ryan was the real sniper

User · Post by **User** » 20 Jul 2024, 14:17

there was a second shooter in the crowd and it was ryan on his kayak

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 21 Jul 2024, 20:00

the house rep for my congressional district (a dem who's held the seat for the better part of 30 years) thinks joe is going to go

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 21 Jul 2024, 23:27

let's he gets gets replaced - my problem(s) are this:

are people going to unite behind the new candidate? will the republicans challenge it court for whatever bullshit reason they can?

if dems are divided, bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea wins.

if they try to challenge it in court with their corrupt judges, then what?

their violent coup didn't work 4 years ago - they're going to try any means they can to ensure bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea wins.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Jul 2024, 00:20

political parties are private organizations and the courts have no say over their internal processes, the threat of a legal intervention is completely unfounded. but you're probably right that it's exceedingly unlikely anyone's going to 'unite behind the new candidate,' which is why running biden in 2020 was so self-evidently stupid to begin with. "he's not senile, it's just a stutter and actually you're ableist for noticing it!" lol ok.

in case you haven't noticed, nobody's uniting behind the old candidate either! you can't just prop up a half-dead hard-on bearer and browbeat people into voting for him because he isn't bag of diarrhea inside another, bigger bag of diarrhea, which is precisely what running him amounts to. he has zero credibility in terms of ability to deliver any actual political change.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Jul 2024, 00:46

it's official, he's out with (thus far) no endorsement for a replacement so that means things are about to get interesting

Corpsepyre · Post by **Corpsepyre** » 22 Jul 2024, 00:51

Yeah, Dems have really screwed the pooch on this one. It's so, so late into the game now for them to sell a new candidate, their credibility, or establish that they can lead.

slugbait · Post by **slugbait** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:16

He just endorsed Harris. Let's just hope her V.P. pick isn't atrocious.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:21

unless i missed something, he only thanked her in his farewell letter, which is definitely not an endorsement

edit- yeah i missed something. he endorsed her in a twitter post separate from the dropout announcement. lol

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:36

Guys, just because Kamala got endorsed doesn't mean she's going to continue running. She's going to drop out too.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:41

why do you think that?

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:51

She's not popular, and is not going to be seen as a change agent. Meanwhile there are wolves at the door in the Dem party with much greater confidence. The Dems are going to want to put a strong man to go up against T.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:51

Grudge wrote: ↑
22 Jul 2024, 01:36
Guys, just because Kamala got endorsed doesn't mean she's going to continue running. She's going to drop out too.

i'm not sure i agree she'll take herself out of the running, but after thinking about it for three seconds, i do think the endorsement is of little significance. i don't imagine the joe budden seal of approval is putting anyone over the top at this stage

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:52

Right

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:53

Grudge wrote: ↑
22 Jul 2024, 01:51
She's not popular, and is not going to be seen as a change agent. Meanwhile there are wolves at the door in the Dem party with much greater confidence. The Dems are going to want to put a strong man to go up against T.

even if there is a potential "strong man" candidate, wouldnt such a person prefer to wsit 4 years. theyd clearly lose now, no?

Grudge · Post by **Grudge** » 22 Jul 2024, 01:58

It's a fair question with no quick or easy answer.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Jul 2024, 02:07

as an aside, i think it's underappreciated just how bad obama was. aside from his disastrous governing record, his original agreement to back hilldogg as his successor has lead directly to the current clusterfuck we find ourselves in

Ryeknow · Post by **Ryeknow** » 22 Jul 2024, 02:27

Could it be Hillary?

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 22 Jul 2024, 03:14

that would be extremely funny and i'd 100% support that choice because it is funny, but no it could not and will not be

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 22 Jul 2024, 05:50

clint eastwood should run. although hell be probably be dead within a year

User · Post by **User** » 22 Jul 2024, 08:49

this was good news and i selected the right option in this poll

slugbait · Post by **slugbait** » 22 Jul 2024, 09:06

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 22 Jul 2024, 10:46

well, before I went to work today I certainly wasn't expecting it. it is what it is.

Biden will drop out of Presidential election as the Dem Nominee