BURZUM: preview of Belus!

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 08 Feb 2010, 01:17

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belus/dp/B0036Y88YW

each song has a little preview!

bad rips ofcourse.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 08 Feb 2010, 01:53

This is soo a few days ago.

I posted this in the Burzum thread.

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:05

[quote name="Johnny"]This is soo a few days ago.

I posted this in the Burzum thread.[/quote]

liar

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:09

After researching the issue further, it turns out I was indeed lying.

It was the Nile bard that I posted them on.

Sir lizard posted them here.

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:11

[quote name="i am the pink lizard"]
[quote name="Johnny"]This is soo a few days ago.

I posted this in the Burzum thread.[/quote]

liar[/quote]

he did, but it was on the nile board.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:13

[quote name="Lumbergh"]
[quote name="i am the pink lizard"]
[quote name="Johnny"]This is soo a few days ago.

I posted this in the Burzum thread.[/quote]

liar[/quote]

he did, but it was on the nile board.[/quote]

I've decided that I was referring to the Nile bard in my original post.

Therefore I was not lying.

Misleading, maybe.

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 08 Feb 2010, 03:01

considering this is the MABB and not the karlsandersgrouphugchat, when you refer to a topic that exists both here and elsewhere without pointing out the location of said topic, it is implied that you were referring to the topic in question that was on this board. and thus, you were lying

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 08 Feb 2010, 03:04

You don't make the rules!

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 08 Feb 2010, 03:16

yes i do. i am the rulemaker

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 08 Feb 2010, 03:21

i am the keymaster

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 08 Feb 2010, 03:34

we should form an alliance. and dance to the rhythm of Maleficus

Charles Bronson · Post by **Charles Bronson** » 08 Feb 2010, 06:30

Not crazy for the new logo, too Opethish.

This isn't the Burzum we're use to, and based on these previews it sounds like generic black metal. A huge disappointment, but I don't think Varg could ever live up to his pre-prison music anyway.

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 08 Feb 2010, 08:43

[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]Not crazy for the new logo, too Opethish.

This isn't the Burzum we're use to, and based on these previews it sounds like generic black metal. A huge disappointment, but I don't think Varg could ever live up to his pre-prison music anyway.[/quote]

Anyone basing their opinions on these previews is a dumbass. They're 30 second clips (of songs that are around the 6-8 min mark for most of them), smashed to fuckery by amazon's web compression.

How can you POSSIBLY tell whether it's "generic black metal", "Drudkh worship" (something I heard on metal archives), "too cleanly produced" "too shitily produced" (heard on m-a) etc, from these clips?

You can't.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 08 Feb 2010, 08:52

This should be leaking any day now.

Right? RIGHT!?

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 08 Feb 2010, 13:22

like I said in the other thread, this sounds like it might actually be listenable

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 08 Feb 2010, 13:37

I love how the kickdrum sounds, it's so Burzumish.... "plof"

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 08 Feb 2010, 15:10

[quote name="TAM TAM"]i am the keymaster[/quote]

possessed Sigorney in Ghostbusters gave me my first stiffy when i was a kid.

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 08 Feb 2010, 19:31

[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]Not crazy for the new logo, too Opethish.

This isn't the Burzum we're use to, and based on these previews it sounds like generic black metal. A huge disappointment, but I don't think Varg could ever live up to his pre-prison music anyway.[/quote]

you're a fucking idiot.

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 08 Feb 2010, 23:11

[quote name="Schadenfreude"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]Not crazy for the new logo, too Opethish.

This isn't the Burzum we're use to, and based on these previews it sounds like generic black metal. A huge disappointment, but I don't think Varg could ever live up to his pre-prison music anyway.[/quote]

you're a fucking idiot.

[/quote]

the Baron agrees

Charles Bronson · Post by **Charles Bronson** » 09 Feb 2010, 02:56

[quote name="Schadenfreude"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]Not crazy for the new logo, too Opethish.

This isn't the Burzum we're use to, and based on these previews it sounds like generic black metal. A huge disappointment, but I don't think Varg could ever live up to his pre-prison music anyway.[/quote]

you're a fucking idiot.

[/quote]

You must not be a big pre-prison Burzum fan.

I'll pass final judgment once the album is leaked.

rhino · Post by **rhino** » 09 Feb 2010, 04:53

hopefully leakage in a few days

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 09 Feb 2010, 06:06

honestly I don't see it leaking until a week before the release at the earliest, since bylebebog or whatever is (I'm assuming) varg's own label.

Charles Bronson · Post by **Charles Bronson** » 09 Feb 2010, 07:04

[quote name="Frank Cotton"]because theres so much post-prison material...[/quote]

Well there's the prison stuff. Those two ambient albums.

Charles Bronson · Post by **Charles Bronson** » 09 Feb 2010, 11:04

[quote name="Frank Cotton"]midi isnt ambient, and you need to look up the definition of "post"[/quote]

Where have I used the term "post-prison"? To my knowledge, I only used "pre-prison", referring to the material he made before going to prison.

The midi stuff is ambient.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 09 Feb 2010, 11:30

I don't do sarcasm. I'm post-ironic.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 10 Feb 2010, 04:57

[quote name="Verbal"]I don't do sarcasm. I'm post-ironic.[/quote]

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 11 Feb 2010, 01:37

http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/interview04.shtml

An interview with Varg. Interesting to note that the album was recorded in Grigenhallen - and that it was done with digital recording (as most things nowadays) as well as a 5150 (which is what surprised me the most.) So really, the album CANT sound bad (on a production level.)

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 11 Feb 2010, 02:45

How much did the experience of spending 16 years in prison change you as

a person and an artist?

16 years anywhere would have changed me per se. My time in prison was

not particularly problematic. I was not a rat, nor a rapist, a Muslim or

paedophile, so the others prisoners had no problem with me. I was not a

junkie or a drunk, and I had no mental problems, so I had no personal

demons to fight whilst there. I was anti-Christian, anti-American and

had killed a hard-on bearer with a knife, so the Muslims had no problem with me. I

was polite and reasonable, so the guards had no problem with me. I was

treated like radioactive shit by the authorities, so pretty much all the

other prisoners thought very well of me. To me this was like a walk in

the park. It was like a 16 year long stay in a monastery, only I could

get weekly and private visits from up to three persons at the time, and

it enabled me to read books I otherwise would not have read - and of

course it kept me physically fit. The isolation - I spent 10 of the 16

years in partial (23 hours a day) or full (24 hours a day) solitary

confinement - strengthened my traits, so to speak, making me more

extreme, both as an artist and as a person, both in a good way, and I

guess - alas! - in a bad way.

16 years with a 8:00 to 16:00 job and a life in that filthy sewer they

call Oslo would have changed me more... Not having defended my life

would have changed me more too. I did the right thing, served 16 years

for it, grew stronger and wiser, and that was it. No big deal.

Do you have any regrets about not being able to fully pursue your

artistic career during that time?

Yes and no. "Yes" because I could have made more music, at least one

album every year. "No" because I did other meaningful and interesting

things instead. Had I been able to make music I would not have been able

to learn so much about, for instance, mythology. On a personal level I

value my knowledge about mythology alone more than my ability to make

music. I would not exchange that knowledge for any number of Burzum

albums.

Have you always intended to bring Burzum back and to make more music?

No. Not sure if I will continue after this record either. If I enjoy the

recording process and the album is not perfect I think I might continue.

If it's perfect I don't need to make another one...

What do you think that Burzum represents (and provides on a musical

level) that no one else can emulate?

My personality mixed with a complete contempt for conformity. I abide by

no rules, and generate music oblivious to what is going on in the music

world, so I am not influenced by others (I haven't heard a new album

since Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger, in 1996, and don't want to

either). My music is not as much tainted by alien influences. It is pure

Burzum. In a sense I left the music world in the year 1993, to live in

oblivion, and I re-entered the music world in 2009, so musically I am

still in 1993. My music was never exposed to the blight of time. Burzum

today is in many ways an anachronism, and I think at least some of you

might think that is a good thing.

You have stated that Belus will feature some songs that date back to the

late '80s and early '90...how do the old songs fit into the overall

concept of the record?

Only the music is old. The lyrics are new. Anyhow, I still make music as

if it was 1993, so... The Uruk-Hai track is musically very different

from the others, though, being made in 1988 and sounding more like Ea!

Lord of the Depths than any of my other tracks, so I might just publish

it as a free download or something. Not sure what to do yet. We'll find

out.

You have also stated that the new album is "a musical and lyrical

description of the White God and the annual events of his life". Why did

you choose this particular theme for your first post-prison album?

Mythology is what I know best. Death, the mystic visit to the realm of

the dead and the magnificent return from the realm of the dead is a

subject that has fascinated man for ages. The White God, Belus, stays

white, i.e. innocent and pure, because he does this every year, and

every time he travels across the river of forgetfulness. He dies and is

rejuvenated and reborn over and over again, indefinitely - as is

everything else in nature. My main focus is the pre-mythology sorcerer

and his approach to this problem, his personal symbolic death and

journey into the realm of the dead, and his symbolic "rebirth". I place

the myth alongside the sorcerer's journey, and show the origin of the

myth. Nobody has done that before.

The fact that this is my first post-prison album is completely

irrelevant, by the way. The original work title for this album was

Baldurs Tilbakekomst ("The Return of Baldur"), but I really did not want

all those trolls out there to ruin the atmosphere for everyone by

claiming I had delusions about being Baldur myself, because I had just

returned from prison. My next work title, Den Hvite Guden ("The White

God"), did not work well either, because so many out there only focused

on the word "white", as if it was a terrible curse, a taboo or

something. "He said the W-word! Somebody call the f***ing vice squad!" So I

settled with the fairly neutral and hard-to-attack yet descriptive name

Belus. The album theme never changed. It was the same all along - and I

came up with the idea some time after my release from prison.

How would you describe the music on Belus? Will loyal Burzum fans be

surprised by the music you're making now?

The music is mostly melodic, melancholic and monotonous. If you have

heard the first two and a half tracks on Hvis Lyset tar Oss and the

first three tracks on Filosofem I don't think you will be surprised by

the music on Belus. I "cherry pick" on Belus, so to speak, like I should

have done on all the previous albums, and make a more thorough and

consistent album this time.

Do you still consider what you do to be Black Metal?

Not really. I think the term Black Metal was hijacked as early as in

1992, and has since then been used by a number of bands, mainly from

Norway, for commercial purposes. Today the term has a different meaning

and does not work well to describe Burzum.

For a short while I flirted with the idea of using a new term, but ended

up ignoring the subject altogether. When forced to take a stand I say

today that it's metal music. Metal with roots in classical music.

Nothing more, nothing less.

If you run a record store and wish to place the new Burzum album in the

Black Metal category feel free to do so, though. If you wish to place it

in any other metal category instead that's okay too. I don't care.

You have made some very strong statements against the contemporary Black

Metal "scene". Is there anyone in the Black Metal world that you respect

or admire?

Now, I guess I should have stressed that my contempt for Black Metallers

is first and foremost directed at some of the Norwegian Black Metallers

I knew or had at least heard about before my incarceration. I really

don't know anything about the rest of the contemporary Black Metal

world, in Norway or abroad. I've just paid some attention to the Ratti

Norvegici.

I am sure there are many brilliant individuals in the contemporary Black

Metal world outside of Norway worthy of our respect and admiration, but

I don't know any of them. Not sure if I even know a single individual in

the contemporary Black Metal world, actually, nor is there any reason

for me to do so.

How do you feel about the way you are portrayed in the media? Do you

think you have ever been correctly represented?

Not much of what is written about me is true from an objective point of

view, and certainly not from my point of view. Some of the lies are not

clever at all, but others are, and it is hard for me to disclose them as

lies when those who know I am right don't have the moral fibre or

courage to step up and say so in public. Another problem is that only a

few are interested in the truth. Even when the evidence is there, they

refuse to look at it. Most human beings just want to live their lives in

ignorance. That's why the Judeo-Christian religions (including Islam)

are so successful in the first place, you know.

The biggest problem is not even the lies -- because they can be

disclosed as such -- but the incompetence of certain journalists. Like

in one interview I gave in late 2009, the journalist was too over-worked

and tired to notice that he made mistakes like leaving out the word

"not" when quoting me having said that "the plan was not to kill".

Instead he managed to write "the plan was to kill", and if I hadn't

noticed and made him correct this before the newspaper was printed, it

would have been rather catastrophic. Such mistakes happen all the time.

I know the journalists don't always do it on purpose, but it is still

very frustrating. Also, friendly characters, with the best intentions in

the world, make similar mistakes, in their attempts to "help" me. I am

accused of having said or done this or that, when I really haven't, and

in the end nobody knows what on Earth is true.

Once, I think in 1995 or 1996, I even read a newspaper article about a

hard-on bearer and thought to myself that "this hard-on bearer is a complete idiot", only to

notice a few seconds later that the article was about me. It was so far

from reality I had to read half a page to even realise it was about me

(and the headline didn't tell)!

Now, before I continue, I can add that I don't think there is some huge

conspiracy against me in particular. I just say that this is how the

media works. It works like that in relation to me and other

controversial figures, and it works like that in relation to just about

everything and everyone else as well. It is worthless as a source of

reliable information and should be shunned at all cost.

Do you feel that any of the negative things that are written about you

are justified?

If you have the wits you can justify just about anything, including

lies, so I don't worry too much about what seems fair and what doesn't.

Besides... I am an arrogant, intolerant, judgemental, ultraconservative,

(at times) cruel, fruital, insensitive and egocentric anti-conformist.

But is that really negative?

Do you enjoy being a controversial and notorious figure or is it a

source of irritation for you?

Because of my arrogance, intolerance et cetera I have always been a

controversial and even -- on different levels -- a notorious figure; in

kindergarten, in school, in the neighbourhood and everywhere else. I am

used to it. Whether I enjoy it or not, I cannot tell, because sometimes

I do, sometimes I don't. Generally speaking, and from nature's point of

view, being controversial and notorious is stupid and even dangerous,

but it can also open many doors - and we are all going to die from

something one day anyway. Who dares wins, right?

You recently issued a statement that caused a great deal of media hype

and accusations of racism and homophobia...did that response genuinely

surprise you? Or was there an element of deliberate mischief and

antagonism behind the statement?

It did genuinely surprise me, because it's not like I have been careful

about what I have said before. Why this reaction and why now?

I think what we really should discuss here is that most of you seem to

think it is okay to worship the (fictional) devil, to be evil (whatever

that means) for the sake of evil, to hate human beings because they are

human beings, and so forth, but the moment some hard-on bearer shows up telling you

that he does not despise all human beings, only some of them, then it's

all of a sudden a major problem to you. Or even worse; a hard-on bearer shows up

and has the nerve to say that he does not hate anyone, but prefers one

group to the other! Dear God! How dare he?!

Deliberate mischief and antagonism? Indeed, but like I have said

already; I was talking about and to the rats of the Norwegian Black

Metal scene. I'll be sure to put some clothes on the next time I open my

big mouth, knowing you are all watching me -- and running errands for

Big Brother.

Hey! I was incarcerated in 1993 and was released in 1984. Now, that

genuinely surprised me.

What do you want to achieve with Belus? Do you want your audience to

grow?

Frankly, I am quite satisfied with the audience I already have, bigger

is not always better, you know, but if it should grow in size after the

release of Belus that would be very nice indeed. I don't expect that

though, mainly because I don't make commercial music or discuss popular

subjects in my lyrics.

The main objective with Belus is to make something exceptional,

musically, of course, but also when it comes to overall atmosphere. It

is supposed to be primitive, dreamlike, unreal, fantastic and different.

A gay man's telescope into a reconstructed past, and also a source of inspiration to

those who are attracted to the barbarian Antiquity. Being "incurably

anti-conformist" I also challenge the accepted truths when it comes to

mythology, and go even further back in time, to ages preceding the age

of mythology - and of course I present a more complete picture of what I

have found in the hitherto (because I am translating it into English)

unpublished book Religion and Sorcery in Ancient Scandinavia.

Do you have any future plans, either personal or creative?

Before anything else I will complete the translation of Religion and

Sorcery in Ancient Scandinavia, and then publish it, complete Belus and

perhaps make a music video to promote it. Not sure if I will say much

more than that, with Big Brother watching us and all... You can always

keep yourself up-to-date on Burzum matters on www.burzum.org

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 11 Feb 2010, 02:49

I saw that interview as well, arguably better than the one on burzum.org

Interesting that he says prison was better than living in oslo would have been

Praise of Death · Post by **Praise of Death** » 11 Feb 2010, 22:32

[quote name="djonni greazo"]yes i do. i am the rulemaker[/quote]

[quote name="TAM TAM"]i am the keymaster[/quote]

And Ghaal is the gift giver.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 11 Feb 2010, 22:39

Sanjiv!

[youtube]43wW6tJuWb4[/youtube]

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 12 Feb 2010, 00:21

[quote name="Praise of Death"]
[quote name="djonni greazo"]yes i do. i am the rulemaker[/quote]

[quote name="TAM TAM"]i am the keymaster[/quote]

And Ghaal is the gift giver.[/quote]

and you're the garbage creature

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 20 Feb 2010, 04:32

so uber grim kvlt proves to be a complete dumbass once again

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 20 Feb 2010, 04:50

he is consistent, if nothing else

Charles Bronson · Post by **Charles Bronson** » 21 Feb 2010, 12:09

[quote name="Tyreese BIGGUMS"]so uber grim kvlt proves to be a complete dumbass once again[/quote]

And how is this? That you guys have a reading deficiency?

Syysysyd · Post by **Syysysyd** » 21 Feb 2010, 12:12

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 22 Feb 2010, 07:18

[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="Tyreese BIGGUMS"]so uber grim kvlt proves to be a complete dumbass once again[/quote]

And how is this? That you guys have a reading deficiency?[/quote]

nah, that you said it sounds like "generic black metal" and "isnt the burzum we're used to." this is basically a successor to filosofem, written some 15-18 years after all that material.

Charles Bronson · Post by **Charles Bronson** » 23 Feb 2010, 02:40

[quote name="Tyreese BIGGUMS"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="Tyreese BIGGUMS"]so uber grim kvlt proves to be a complete dumbass once again[/quote]

And how is this? That you guys have a reading deficiency?[/quote]

nah, that you said it sounds like "generic black metal" and "isnt the burzum we're used to." this is basically a successor to filosofem, written some 15-18 years after all that material.[/quote]

Not really. Its very different, and in many ways it does not live up to the expectations. I know ANUS is really pissed.

Syysysyd · Post by **Syysysyd** » 23 Feb 2010, 03:03

honestly who had any expectations for this album

djonni greazo · Post by **djonni greazo** » 23 Feb 2010, 04:02

[quote name="Skintoxication"]

[/quote]

Tyreese BIGGUMS · Post by **Tyreese BIGGUMS** » 23 Feb 2010, 09:30

[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="Tyreese BIGGUMS"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="Tyreese BIGGUMS"]so uber grim kvlt proves to be a complete dumbass once again[/quote]

And how is this? That you guys have a reading deficiency?[/quote]

nah, that you said it sounds like "generic black metal" and "isnt the burzum we're used to." this is basically a successor to filosofem, written some 15-18 years after all that material.[/quote]

Not really. Its very different, and in many ways it does not live up to the expectations. I know ANUS is really pissed.[/quote]

cos they dislike varg after he told them to stop putting words into his mouth and twisting his ramblings to fit their own agenda. it sounds exactly like filosofem with different vocals and no ambient tracks

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 23 Feb 2010, 10:26

the fact that he even refers to ANUS is automatic FAIL on his part.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 23 Feb 2010, 10:59

They do talk quite a lot of shit there.

QUITE a lot.

And the reviews? I have checked out some of the bands they recommend, and in fairness, I generally don't dislike them, but I cannot stand that bullshit method of writing. I think I may even find it more irritating than an "OMG LOL THIS BAND SO fruital I RAPED MYSELF LOL"-review.

I don't really care though because I almost never read reviews. They strike me as being very nearly completely useless.

zim · Post by **zim** » 23 Feb 2010, 11:03

music reviews are completely useless. they mean nothing except to the person who writes it.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 23 Feb 2010, 11:06

The only use I can see is if you know the person writing it has very similar taste to you in music. And then maybe using such a review to prioritise which cds to check out yourself.

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 23 Feb 2010, 11:09

at least 95% of the reviews on metal archives are utter shit.

every once in a while I come across some that are written intelligently and give a fair assessment of an album without the reviewer coming off as a fanboy, elitist, dochebag, or all of the above. some of the best bands i've come across on metal archives have had no album reviews but enough basic info to peak my interest (ie: oh their keyboardist/guitarist/vocal/whatever was also in XXXXXXXXX, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm)

I don't even bother with ANUS. every single user on that site IS AN ELITIST DOUCHBAG FANBOY who all seem to have some bizarre right wing agenda going for them. so yeah. fuck you.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 23 Feb 2010, 11:12

True.

But seeing as I've liked most of the cds that have favourable reviews on that site, I shall continue to check bands out based on them from time to time. Similarly too if any of you niggas recommend something. I may check it out.

EDIT: Yea, Metal Archives reviews are completely awful.

zim · Post by **zim** » 23 Feb 2010, 11:20

metal archive reviewers can go jump off a bridge

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 23 Feb 2010, 11:21

Then write about how that made them feel.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 23 Feb 2010, 12:59

i think anus generally endorses a lot of high quality music, certainly a large body of the best of what metal has to offer. but dear god their music reviewer(s?) are absolutely horrid writers. still, if you can ignore or get past the awful writing and maladjusted personalities that populate the site, it is a great resource for finding quality music.