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Global Concerns And Questions Grow As China Admits Fuel Rods At Nuclear Plant Are Damaged
While China assures the world that everything is under control, the nuclear situation in Southern China is being closely watched by the White House.
global concerns of a possible ecological and geopolitical disaster loom large as China has finally admitted that some of the nuclear fuel rods in its Taishan Nuclear Power Plant are damaged and that radioactive gases are building up inside one of its reactors. The Chinese government announced this week that no abnormal radiation has been detected outside of the plant, however, while a French company that helps operate and jointly owns the facility has claimed the radiation presents an "imminent radiological threat."
The security and health concerns stem from a build up of radioactive gasses in the water and steam surrounding the fuel rods in one of the plant’s reactors. According to reports, China has admitted that "about five" of the fuel rods in the reactor are damaged, but the plant is said to be capable of operating safely with up to one quarter of its 600 fuel rods damaged. French nuclear energy company Framatome, owned by Electricity of France (EDF), which controls a stake in the plant and helps operate it, has meanwhile stated the situation is caused by a degradation of the fuel rods' housings within the reactor. "The presence of certain noble gases in the primary circuit is a known phenomenon, studied and provided for in the reactor operating procedures," reads an EDF statement. However, The New York Times reports that experts say such build-ups of radioactive gasses are often caused by “poor design, manufacturing, or management.” Based on somewhat conflicting statements, it's unclear how dangerous the situation may currently be in Taishan.
Taishan is located in Guangdong province in southern China and is close to several major metropolises such as Macau, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, and the major industrial hub of Shenzhen. Obviously, a nuclear accident in the area would cause an immense health crisis. Four of the surrounding cities (Dongguan, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Guangzhou) are among the top 50 most populated cities in the world, with close to 40 million people between them.
CNN reports that sources close to the Biden administration have determined the situation at Taishan is not yet at a “crisis level” and “does not currently pose a severe safety threat to workers at the plant or Chinese public.” However, documents obtained by CNN also accuse Chinese safety officials of raising acceptable limits for radiation in the area surrounding the plant in order to avoid shutting it down.
When asked for comment, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian told reporters “there is nothing abnormal detected in the radiation level surrounding the plant.” Chinese news agencies have ben reporting similar headlines. "The operational safety of the nuclear power plant is guaranteed," China’s Ministry of Ecology and Environment said, according to China Daily. “The premise in the CNN report is wrong.”
The White House National Security Council has convened multiple times in recent weeks to discuss the situation, led by NSC Senior Director for China Laura Rosenberger and Senior Director for Arms Control Mallory Stewart. In addition, the White House has been in close communication with the Chinese and French governments and has consulted with subject matter experts at the Department of Energy (DOE). U.S. government officials declined CNN’s requests to discuss their assessments, but according to current treaties in place, the U.S. would be required to make known any risk to the Chinese public posed by a potential nuclear accident.
CNN also reports that Framatome reached out to the U.S. Department of Energy requesting help in assessing the dangers posed by the buildup of radioactive gasses at Taishan. EDF, Framatome’s parent company, holds a 30% stake in the plant alongside the state-owned China General Nuclear Power Group (CGN), which controls the other 70%. However CGN is on the U.S. Government’s Entity List, meaning the government believes they act “contrary to the national security or foreign policy interests of the United States” and, therefore, the United States or U.S.-owned businesses cannot conduct business with them. Framatome has reportedly asked that the U.S. waive that restriction in order to seek the help of American nuclear experts.
"The situation is an imminent radiological threat to the site and to the public and Framatome urgently requests permission to transfer technical data and assistance as may be necessary to return the plant to normal operation," read a June 8 memo Framatome sent to the Energy Department, according to CNN.
However dire the situation has been reported in some headlines, other experts have cast doubts on the assessments claiming a nuclear disaster could be imminent. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that it has not received any indication that a radiological incident has occurred, according to the BBC. Najmedin Meshkati, a nuclear safety expert at the University of Southern California, told the New York Times that damaged fuel rods are a common occurrence and that it’s unlikely the conditions at the Taishan plant are a serious threat to public safety.
Meanwhile, an unnamed spokesperson for EDF Energy, the French company that helped build and helps operate the plant, said the situation may seem dire but is under control. "We are not in a scenario of an accident with a melting core,” the spokesperson said. “We are not talking about contamination, we are talking about controlled emissions." A separate EDF statement published by CNN echoes that reassurance. "According to the data available, the plant is operating within the safety parameters,” that statement claims. “Our team is working with relevant experts to assess the situation and propose solutions to address any potential issue.”
While there does not seem to be any consensus yet on the dangers posed by the damaged fuel rods at the Taishan Nuclear Power Plant, any type of radiological incident in close proximity to so many heavily populated urban areas could wreak havoc on the Chinese and Hong Kong public if any potential radioactive contamination grows to unsafe levels. A major nuclear emergency along the already tense South China Sea would undoubtedly have public health implications that go far beyond China's borders, as well.
We will continue to monitor the situation in Taishan and update our reporting as new information comes to light.
While China assures the world that everything is under control, the nuclear situation in Southern China is being closely watched by the White House.
global concerns of a possible ecological and geopolitical disaster loom large as China has finally admitted that some of the nuclear fuel rods in its Taishan Nuclear Power Plant are damaged and that radioactive gases are building up inside one of its reactors. The Chinese government announced this week that no abnormal radiation has been detected outside of the plant, however, while a French company that helps operate and jointly owns the facility has claimed the radiation presents an "imminent radiological threat."
The security and health concerns stem from a build up of radioactive gasses in the water and steam surrounding the fuel rods in one of the plant’s reactors. According to reports, China has admitted that "about five" of the fuel rods in the reactor are damaged, but the plant is said to be capable of operating safely with up to one quarter of its 600 fuel rods damaged. French nuclear energy company Framatome, owned by Electricity of France (EDF), which controls a stake in the plant and helps operate it, has meanwhile stated the situation is caused by a degradation of the fuel rods' housings within the reactor. "The presence of certain noble gases in the primary circuit is a known phenomenon, studied and provided for in the reactor operating procedures," reads an EDF statement. However, The New York Times reports that experts say such build-ups of radioactive gasses are often caused by “poor design, manufacturing, or management.” Based on somewhat conflicting statements, it's unclear how dangerous the situation may currently be in Taishan.
Taishan is located in Guangdong province in southern China and is close to several major metropolises such as Macau, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, and the major industrial hub of Shenzhen. Obviously, a nuclear accident in the area would cause an immense health crisis. Four of the surrounding cities (Dongguan, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Guangzhou) are among the top 50 most populated cities in the world, with close to 40 million people between them.
CNN reports that sources close to the Biden administration have determined the situation at Taishan is not yet at a “crisis level” and “does not currently pose a severe safety threat to workers at the plant or Chinese public.” However, documents obtained by CNN also accuse Chinese safety officials of raising acceptable limits for radiation in the area surrounding the plant in order to avoid shutting it down.
When asked for comment, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian told reporters “there is nothing abnormal detected in the radiation level surrounding the plant.” Chinese news agencies have ben reporting similar headlines. "The operational safety of the nuclear power plant is guaranteed," China’s Ministry of Ecology and Environment said, according to China Daily. “The premise in the CNN report is wrong.”
The White House National Security Council has convened multiple times in recent weeks to discuss the situation, led by NSC Senior Director for China Laura Rosenberger and Senior Director for Arms Control Mallory Stewart. In addition, the White House has been in close communication with the Chinese and French governments and has consulted with subject matter experts at the Department of Energy (DOE). U.S. government officials declined CNN’s requests to discuss their assessments, but according to current treaties in place, the U.S. would be required to make known any risk to the Chinese public posed by a potential nuclear accident.
CNN also reports that Framatome reached out to the U.S. Department of Energy requesting help in assessing the dangers posed by the buildup of radioactive gasses at Taishan. EDF, Framatome’s parent company, holds a 30% stake in the plant alongside the state-owned China General Nuclear Power Group (CGN), which controls the other 70%. However CGN is on the U.S. Government’s Entity List, meaning the government believes they act “contrary to the national security or foreign policy interests of the United States” and, therefore, the United States or U.S.-owned businesses cannot conduct business with them. Framatome has reportedly asked that the U.S. waive that restriction in order to seek the help of American nuclear experts.
"The situation is an imminent radiological threat to the site and to the public and Framatome urgently requests permission to transfer technical data and assistance as may be necessary to return the plant to normal operation," read a June 8 memo Framatome sent to the Energy Department, according to CNN.
However dire the situation has been reported in some headlines, other experts have cast doubts on the assessments claiming a nuclear disaster could be imminent. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that it has not received any indication that a radiological incident has occurred, according to the BBC. Najmedin Meshkati, a nuclear safety expert at the University of Southern California, told the New York Times that damaged fuel rods are a common occurrence and that it’s unlikely the conditions at the Taishan plant are a serious threat to public safety.
Meanwhile, an unnamed spokesperson for EDF Energy, the French company that helped build and helps operate the plant, said the situation may seem dire but is under control. "We are not in a scenario of an accident with a melting core,” the spokesperson said. “We are not talking about contamination, we are talking about controlled emissions." A separate EDF statement published by CNN echoes that reassurance. "According to the data available, the plant is operating within the safety parameters,” that statement claims. “Our team is working with relevant experts to assess the situation and propose solutions to address any potential issue.”
While there does not seem to be any consensus yet on the dangers posed by the damaged fuel rods at the Taishan Nuclear Power Plant, any type of radiological incident in close proximity to so many heavily populated urban areas could wreak havoc on the Chinese and Hong Kong public if any potential radioactive contamination grows to unsafe levels. A major nuclear emergency along the already tense South China Sea would undoubtedly have public health implications that go far beyond China's borders, as well.
We will continue to monitor the situation in Taishan and update our reporting as new information comes to light.
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Just get them to eat the damaged rods.
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eating nuclear fuel rods would probably be considered "unhealthy" by the internet diet vice squad
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FUCK YOU! YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! FREEDUMB WARBGRBL!!!!!!!!!!!
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i guess if they were described as "organic" thats all most people would need to consider them some kind of transcendental health food
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Oh, haven't we seen this before? Eastern Europe? 1986?

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I thought they'd eat anything with a shadow?
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Also, they're completely covering up the origin of the covid-19 virus.
And US government and WHO is working with them to do so.
And US government and WHO is working with them to do so.
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Man, China has been lying about what happens inside their borders for the last 30 years. What else is fucking new?
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What evidence can you present that this is a coverup?
The CIA is still investigating this and has yet to provide a report to Joe Biden on this. You should call them up and let them know that you've got some inside info. Better yet, let us know what that info is.
The CIA is still investigating this and has yet to provide a report to Joe Biden on this. You should call them up and let them know that you've got some inside info. Better yet, let us know what that info is.
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Even if the CIA concluded that it was a coverup, why believe them rather than the Chinese government? Has the US leadership never lied before? (Saddam's WMDs, so and so forth?). I'm mentioning the US here specifically because most of this usual disinformation comes from them and lapped up by dummies like you in Europe.
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It's actually not coming from US government, which I don't trust at all and indeed lies just as much. Same with my own government, that I also don't trust.
Check out recent studies done by Saagar Enjeti, Krystal Ball, Jamie Metzl and Alex Berenson. A quick search on their work and podcasts will show a lot of evidence.
I'm also fed up with your hostility towards me for some inexplicable reason. So I'll leave you to it to read into these investigations yourself.
Check out recent studies done by Saagar Enjeti, Krystal Ball, Jamie Metzl and Alex Berenson. A quick search on their work and podcasts will show a lot of evidence.
I'm also fed up with your hostility towards me for some inexplicable reason. So I'll leave you to it to read into these investigations yourself.
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See that's the problem with today's retard generation, can't read, and when you ask them for evidence, they start listing podcasters they listen to, Alex Jones, Fox News, etc.Vahmpy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 21:59It's actually not coming from US government, which I don't trust at all and indeed lies just as much. Same with my own government, that I also don't trust.
Check out recent studies done by Saagar Enjeti, Krystal Ball, Jamie Metzl and Alex Berenson. A quick search on their work and podcasts will show a lot of evidence.
I'm also fed up with your hostility towards me for some inexplicable reason. So I'll leave you to it to read into these investigations.
It doesn't matter if what you're listening to comes directly from the US government, from their press office podium (I didn't actually use the word US government, you did). It may very well be coming to you via the collaboration of Government-affiliated sources with these "non-government writers/podcasters".
Every single author/podocaster/writer you mentioned above is American. And guess what, America's waging a new cold-war with a country that threatens to eclipse them militarily and economically with a different economic/governance model. So ofcourse, you have these talking parrots who collude with the war-mongering nexus of the US Government + CIA + Lobbies + Defense Industry to raise hostilities to a fever pitch.
Why is this happening today? Because China is beating the war-crazy, racist-US and European nexus on every metric you think of. 70 years ago, they were dirt-poor, but look at what they've achieved via their alternative system. Check the boxes
Fastest to 5G
Fastest containment of Covid
Among the fastest in medical cures
Manufacturing superiority, cement, steel, etc
Consumer industry superiority, computer chips, resources
Clean energy production - most solar panels, hydro power superiority
Highest research output - most PHD papers and PHDs
Space programs catching speed
High-speed Maglev rail system, excellent infrastructure
Income per capita catching speed
Defence spending catching up
It is a repeat of the Sputnik "Holy Shit we're getting our ass handed to us" moment - and that's what has got large sections of society in the US and Europe feeling threatened that a day will come when they will no longer be able to rule over the world through NATO. It worries the shit out of them that other countries will emulate China's model, break their monopoly on power and wealth accumulation, and chart an independent course from the false democracies of Europe and the US.
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Faucet allegedly funded the gain of function research so there is a cover up because of his involvement abd therefor America’s potential involvement.
China is known to steal from other countries in order to achieve their progress so they aren’t innocent here but you are 100% right this is a repeat of the Cold War. I personally am very disturbed by the treatment of the Uyghurs - forced sterilization, forced work camps, etc that American companies knowingly participate in.
China is a truly fucked up place.
China is known to steal from other countries in order to achieve their progress so they aren’t innocent here but you are 100% right this is a repeat of the Cold War. I personally am very disturbed by the treatment of the Uyghurs - forced sterilization, forced work camps, etc that American companies knowingly participate in.
China is a truly fucked up place.
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Lmao faucet I didn’t want to edit that, I clearly meant Fauci.
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not really speaking to anything here at MABB but a more general observation is that i've seen an alarming number of people who decry the iraq war run-up and the press' complicity in selling it to the public do a complete 180 on china. "well sure, the US government and western intelligence manufactured the case for war out of thin air, and the press knew it was all a pack of lies and still sold it to the american public anyway, but THIS time it's different... covid is a chinese bioweapon that leaked from the wuhan lab! i heard nate silver say it a couple weeks ago, and you know him, he's a real smart numbers hard-on bearer. i think he's right on the money. and have you heard about the xinjiang genocide... check out this dude adrian zenz, he's a real brave truth-teller..."
no real cause for hope that things will ever change for the better
no real cause for hope that things will ever change for the better
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God the last thing the world needs is US vs Russia/China. We need diplomacy and Biden ain’t it.
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Agreed. And I also agree with the points mentioned that it's like a Cold War against China.
I just think that the information being released about the virus accidentally leaked from a lab could very well be true. Now that more investigation is being done. Not saying it's a bio weapon or whatever. Studies on virusses in labs happen all the time. Wuhan having such a lab seems just too much of a coincidence to me.
Anyway, I guess we'll never know the truth about it all.
Noyka, do you think the US will ever have a president that will do good for your own country as well as foreign diplomacies?
I just think that the information being released about the virus accidentally leaked from a lab could very well be true. Now that more investigation is being done. Not saying it's a bio weapon or whatever. Studies on virusses in labs happen all the time. Wuhan having such a lab seems just too much of a coincidence to me.
Anyway, I guess we'll never know the truth about it all.
Noyka, do you think the US will ever have a president that will do good for your own country as well as foreign diplomacies?
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No those in power get too rich off of war mongering abd prixy wars it’s their bread and butter. Look at them continuing to put their own citizens against each other to keep us ignorant of the bigger problems at hand it’s disgusting.
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if you want to be the president in a five eyes country, you go along with the permanent security state. doesn't typically end well for those who try to defy it
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You are confusing Communism with Fascism, which as you correctly note emerged from Europe and flourishes today in the form of Neo-Nazi movements in countries like the Netherlands.
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faceism
