A solemn confession
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A solemn confession
I must finally admit that Morbid Angel's new album has been one of the most disastrous moments in my life. The release of that album broke something inside of me. There is something gut-wrenching about watching your greatest music heroes, who were a model example of perfect standards, be torn down like this. Everything I had thought about them in the past stands negated. On the one hand, I want to throw them out of my life. But how do you do that to a group which has been such a big part of your life? I recall with clear memory, that it was the rage and aggression in Morbid Angel's music in which I sought comfort during my socially awkward and isolated years at school and early university. Now I can't even watch their rare videos without a feeling of disgust.
It's a fucking mess.
It's a fucking mess.
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Re: A solemn confession
so...are you coming out yet?
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Re: A solemn confession
Straight into your mouth, yes.
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Re: A solemn confession
hey guys! we finally found someone Imran's interested in!
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Re: A solemn confession
but you said you loved it!
the dead vote well wrote: ↑18 Jun 2021, 04:22moving from a garbage disposal back to the dumpster but it’s an improvement nonetheless
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Re: A solemn confession
[quote name="IRONMAN"]I must finally admit that Morbid Angel's new album has been one of the most disastrous moments in my life. The release of that album broke something inside of me. There is something gut-wrenching about watching your greatest music heroes, who were a model example of perfect standards, be torn down like this. Everything I had thought about them in the past stands negated. On the one hand, I want to throw them out of my life. But how do you do that to a group which has been such a big part of your life? I recall with clear memory, that it was the rage and aggression in Morbid Angel's music in which I sought comfort during my socially awkward and isolated years at school and early university. Now I can't even watch their rare videos without a feeling of disgust.
It's a fucking mess.[/quote]
It happens. Time to go shopping for a new favorite band.
Lots of my old school favorites are doing really stupid things now, if they're still alive, but their old albums are still great albums. Pop one in every now and then and jam to it, find other bands with styles similar to it, but don't linger on that emotional attachment because that makes you gay.
A gentleman I met one midsummer day told me that he was a big Staind fan until Aaron Lewis wrote a song in support of the Tea Party, and now he wishes death upon the man for taking such an incongruous political stance, considering his fanbase and the subject matter of his lyrics (which I was and am not aware of, because I hate Staind)
Death? Really? Does anyone think it's unusual to "feel" strongly for bands or songs? People keep listening to Michael Jackson singles as if he never even thought about touching a little boy's butt. Why? People tell me that they're still great songs.
It's a fucking mess.[/quote]
It happens. Time to go shopping for a new favorite band.
A gentleman I met one midsummer day told me that he was a big Staind fan until Aaron Lewis wrote a song in support of the Tea Party, and now he wishes death upon the man for taking such an incongruous political stance, considering his fanbase and the subject matter of his lyrics (which I was and am not aware of, because I hate Staind)
Death? Really? Does anyone think it's unusual to "feel" strongly for bands or songs? People keep listening to Michael Jackson singles as if he never even thought about touching a little boy's butt. Why? People tell me that they're still great songs.

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Re: A solemn confession
IDI is so temporally, musically and ideologically estranged from MA's back catalogue that it really has no bearing on how I feel about the albums of theirs that I always loved.

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Re: A solemn confession
Same here. You just have to admit that it's a fuck up and move on. The old stuff still exists with their old ideology intact for those particular albums. Indeed MA were the biggest reason to get excited for new music last year but I got a couple other bands who's new stuff I'm eagerly awaiting
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Re: A solemn confession
[quote name="IRONMAN"]Straight into your mouth, yes.[/quote]

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Re: A solemn confession
Wangoed*
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Delusion about bad albums of bands we like is a classic, but I am sure there is no problem. Everything ends, also good bands. It's life.
Anyway there are also good tracks as "Blades for Baal" and "Nevermore". Is not a full shit, is a 80% shit and 20% good.
Anyway there are also good tracks as "Blades for Baal" and "Nevermore". Is not a full shit, is a 80% shit and 20% good.

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rocknrolla">prostitutes....they are magical beings. Almost like unicorns. But instead of unicorns, prostitutes do exist. They cost real money. But..........It may just be worth the while. They do unbelievable things with their mouths.</blockquote><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Extreme Noise Tara">Ryan is black.</blockquote>
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Re: A solemn confession
seriously, this is a killer track
[youtube]FDpz4odGRP4[/youtube]
[youtube]FDpz4odGRP4[/youtube]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rocknrolla">prostitutes....they are magical beings. Almost like unicorns. But instead of unicorns, prostitutes do exist. They cost real money. But..........It may just be worth the while. They do unbelievable things with their mouths.</blockquote><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Extreme Noise Tara">Ryan is black.</blockquote>
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Re: A solemn confession
no it's just 100% bad, those two just look better because of their proximity to utter garbage like too extreme and that manowar song
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Re: A solemn confession
[quote name="Derek Waters?"]no it's just 100% bad, those two just look better because of their proximity to utter garbage like too extreme and that manowar song[/quote]
It's like a shit with corn kernels in it. Yeah, they may be technically sound kernels, but they're still in a shit.
It's like a shit with corn kernels in it. Yeah, they may be technically sound kernels, but they're still in a shit.
;,,;ANGEL OF DESEASE wrote:the path of whoring is something wicked and grim, and very philosophical.
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Re: A solemn confession
Morbid Angel have never been my favorite band so it wasn't too bothersome 
[quote name="shittin bricks on hoes. shittin it up all good like"]
[quote name="shittin bricks on hoes. shittin it up all good like"]you keep your quiznosy scunt away from my taintbag[/quote]
upon further review this has got to be one of the most baffling things ever said on the mabb[/quote]


[quote name="shittin bricks on hoes. shittin it up all good like"]you keep your quiznosy scunt away from my taintbag[/quote]
upon further review this has got to be one of the most baffling things ever said on the mabb[/quote]


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Re: A solemn confession
I'm waiting to see what the next recording is like before I completely write them off. I'm hoping IDI is a failed experiment and they realize they fucked up big time. If the next one is also techno-ridden, then they are dead to me. (Although I'll still enjoy their back catalog.)
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Re: A solemn confession
[quote name="Friendroid"]
[quote name="Redd"]so...are you coming out yet?[/quote]
owned.[/quote]

WHAT THE FUCK???!!
[quote name="Redd"]so...are you coming out yet?[/quote]
owned.[/quote]

WHAT THE FUCK???!!
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Re: A solemn confession
The family is real proud of his dick.
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they're nearly all cock-eyed.
this makes me think of the Satanists in "Rosemary's Baby".
creepy, weird old people

this makes me think of the Satanists in "Rosemary's Baby".
creepy, weird old people
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[quote name="Skinoperable"]for some reason i expected something a lot more bizarre[/quote]
this, and a warning not to open at work...
this, and a warning not to open at work...
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Re: A solemn confession
Cool, it's Quorthon
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Ontopic: I consider Illud Divinum Insanus the same as C old Lake & Risk. A one-time miss. When Morbid Angel has riffs, it's good, when they choose techno, White Zombie or Manowar, they fail. So imho, they should be able to still deliver.

Ontopic: I consider Illud Divinum Insanus the same as C old Lake & Risk. A one-time miss. When Morbid Angel has riffs, it's good, when they choose techno, White Zombie or Manowar, they fail. So imho, they should be able to still deliver.
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IMO, Illud is one powerful tool, Trey tried to counter the close minded metal scene of today. It was not musically that good like other albums, no one can make good music forever. I am not going to hate the band for just one album, what important is the great music the band created in the past, the massive felling better than anything in world 
[youtube]BAr4xoSHMu0[/youtube]
[youtube]BAr4xoSHMu0[/youtube]
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[quote name="Mutilator"]Cool, it's Quorthon
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Imagine if Trey and quorthon wrote music together


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Imagine if Trey and quorthon wrote music together
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[quote name="Demon seed"]IMO, gleeso is one powerful tool, Trey tried to counter the close minded metal scene of today. It was not musically that good like other albums, no one can make good music forever. I am not going to hate the band for just one album, what important is the great music the band created in the past, the massive felling better than anything in world 
[youtube]BAr4xoSHMu0[/youtube][/quote]
I don't buy the 'trying to encounter the close minded metal scene of today' rant (by copying Manowar & White Zombie FFS!). Of course there are lots of whining gays that just stick to Cannibal Corpse, Asphyx and still want Martin van Drunen in Pestilence, but It sounds like Trey doesn't know what has been going on in the metal scene the last decennium. Apart from The Berzerker, Atari Teenage Riot, Bong Ra and simular acts that combine extreme metal with extreme techno, there's also techdeath and lots more progressive bands out there.
It's all described here:

[youtube]BAr4xoSHMu0[/youtube][/quote]
I don't buy the 'trying to encounter the close minded metal scene of today' rant (by copying Manowar & White Zombie FFS!). Of course there are lots of whining gays that just stick to Cannibal Corpse, Asphyx and still want Martin van Drunen in Pestilence, but It sounds like Trey doesn't know what has been going on in the metal scene the last decennium. Apart from The Berzerker, Atari Teenage Riot, Bong Ra and simular acts that combine extreme metal with extreme techno, there's also techdeath and lots more progressive bands out there.
It's all described here:

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Re: A solemn confession
So you mean there are many riffs in Illud that are stolen from monowar and white zombie ?
..For the freedoms and prisons are in the mind..
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[quote name="Friendroid"]
[quote name="Demon seed"]IMO, gleeso is one powerful tool, Trey tried to counter the close minded metal scene of today. It was not musically that good like other albums, no one can make good music forever. I am not going to hate the band for just one album, what important is the great music the band created in the past, the massive felling better than anything in world
[youtube]BAr4xoSHMu0[/youtube][/quote]
They didnt do it for the scene or for the fans, they did it for themselves, as they've said in past interviews.[/quote]
Exactly they wrote the music for themselves thats what "I" signifies but I was talking about its concepts, fans do not appreciate a band changing its sound, writing music in different direction. All trey wanted to show is that, point of views change and you are not a hypocrite if you wrote music about satan or something like that in that past and now you doing total different thing, so he just wrote the kind of music he is into right now. The album is just something which does not fit our taste. So we better appreciate what we like at the place of dis-appreciating what we do not, its just a piece of music its not going to harm you in any way.
Or probably people are afraid that their friends are going to make fun of them that their favorite band sucks now.
[quote name="Demon seed"]IMO, gleeso is one powerful tool, Trey tried to counter the close minded metal scene of today. It was not musically that good like other albums, no one can make good music forever. I am not going to hate the band for just one album, what important is the great music the band created in the past, the massive felling better than anything in world
[youtube]BAr4xoSHMu0[/youtube][/quote]
They didnt do it for the scene or for the fans, they did it for themselves, as they've said in past interviews.[/quote]
Exactly they wrote the music for themselves thats what "I" signifies but I was talking about its concepts, fans do not appreciate a band changing its sound, writing music in different direction. All trey wanted to show is that, point of views change and you are not a hypocrite if you wrote music about satan or something like that in that past and now you doing total different thing, so he just wrote the kind of music he is into right now. The album is just something which does not fit our taste. So we better appreciate what we like at the place of dis-appreciating what we do not, its just a piece of music its not going to harm you in any way.
Or probably people are afraid that their friends are going to make fun of them that their favorite band sucks now.
..For the freedoms and prisons are in the mind..
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Re: A solemn confession
[quote name="Demon seed"]So you mean there are many riffs in gleeso that are stolen from monowar and white zombie ?[/quote]
No, that's not what I mean.
IMO there are 3 deviant styles on Illud: I am Morbid is like a Manowar rip-off and Radikult is like a White Zombie rip-off and the techno influence.
Why cruise on the open minded argument when copying 2 bands that are as close minded as possible always doing the same little trick over and over again?
Morbid Angel has already evolved in the past from satanic to self-empowerment. There was never a problem because the music was inspired. Inspiration is what lacks Illud, not the choice of styles.
It's probably understandable; making 8 albums, containing like +/- 80 songs, containing like +/- 320 riffs, one might eventually run out of ideas, unless there's another composer in the band to reflame the spark of creativity, like Lee did to Holt in Exodus.
No, that's not what I mean.
IMO there are 3 deviant styles on Illud: I am Morbid is like a Manowar rip-off and Radikult is like a White Zombie rip-off and the techno influence.
Why cruise on the open minded argument when copying 2 bands that are as close minded as possible always doing the same little trick over and over again?
Morbid Angel has already evolved in the past from satanic to self-empowerment. There was never a problem because the music was inspired. Inspiration is what lacks Illud, not the choice of styles.
It's probably understandable; making 8 albums, containing like +/- 80 songs, containing like +/- 320 riffs, one might eventually run out of ideas, unless there's another composer in the band to reflame the spark of creativity, like Lee did to Holt in Exodus.
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Re: A solemn confession
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]Is not a full shit, is a 80% shit and 20% good.[/quote]

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Re: A solemn confession
If I was to rate each song out of 10 it'd look something like this:
omni potens - 4
Too extreme - 1 (I just fucking hate how it really wants to stop after about 1 or 2 minutes in but carries on forever doing the same shit, seriously one of the worst songs to ever have been made)
Existo - 6
Blades - 5
I am Morbid - 3
10 more dimbag tribute - 7
Destructonation - 4
Nevermore of this shit - 7
Beauty meets bollocks - 6
Radicunt - 4 (would have got 2 or 3 but the solo is good so
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Mea Culpa - 5
I may have been too nice some of those actually, but either way it's not looking too good
omni potens - 4
Too extreme - 1 (I just fucking hate how it really wants to stop after about 1 or 2 minutes in but carries on forever doing the same shit, seriously one of the worst songs to ever have been made)
Existo - 6
Blades - 5
I am Morbid - 3
10 more dimbag tribute - 7
Destructonation - 4
Nevermore of this shit - 7
Beauty meets bollocks - 6
Radicunt - 4 (would have got 2 or 3 but the solo is good so
Mea Culpa - 5
I may have been too nice some of those actually, but either way it's not looking too good
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Re: A solemn confession
'It's bullshit' is always a very convincing argument.

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Re: A solemn confession
Ha.It's just hard to fathom one of the best/most original death metal guitarists simply running out of riffs.

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