[quote name="uni777"]Oh my fucking god...
...I'm not saying i do not like it, but i do need to let it sink in as i do not get it...[/quote]
I'm saying I do not like it. And unfortunately...it has sunk in. It's like when your dog died, and you knew that, but it only sunk in the first time you got home from work and he wasn't there. Except this is like you get home and you find its body and it's wearing a vinyl shirt and eyeliner. Sorry, Evil D is an easy target.
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I Am Morbid: I actually like this now. I think it sounds fucking awesome. Can you honestly tell me you don't like the part after 4:10? You must be lying if you say you don't. I think this whole song is going to kick ass.
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I can honestly tell you I don't like the part after 4:10. I'm absolutely not lying.
You can honestly tell me you like this better than 10 More Dead? You must be lying.
In all seriousness, Baal sounds really cool.
[quote name="IRONMAN"]I Am Morbid and Destructos seems to be metal. Notice that those are mostly drums on Destructos.[/quote]
Green Day uses real drums, too. "I [Was] Morbid" reminded me of the first single from the latest album by The Haunted. Which sucked, and reminded me of "mall metal" too. Meaning music for frat boys and posers.
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To this point I am curious about the HOT TOPIC thing. Is it not a good thing that people can go in a store and buy licensed shit of a band? Or is it that only certain people are supposed to listen to a particular kind of music and buy that bands merchandise?[/quote]
Dude, it is absolutely a good thing. I think distribution and getting your art in front of as many people as possible is hugely important if you want to make money as an artist. Look, as lame as I think these samples are, Morbid Angel gave me a bunch of inspiring music to listen to. If they suddenly went to #1 on Billboard and you saw kids wearing their shirts everywhere, I'd be glad. They deserve to become rich and famous for their body of work. No question. Where I live, "Hot Topic" has become synonymous with posers, basically. That store is like a "how to be a rebel and piss your parents off" convenience store. I've totally bought stuff there before, because they actually carry good stuff at times. But I was specifically referring to, as DustyVag said, kids who had no clue about the band before and just bought it because they heard Radikult on the radio or something. I'll go one further--kids that did that, but would have had no use for Covenant if they heard it first and wouldn't have checked it out if it WASN'T featured at their favorite store that sells colored contact lenses and black nail polish alongside metal and emo CDs.
The fact that they're buying it at all is good for the band, and the last part of what I just said is totally elitist. I recognize that. It's irrational and comes from feeling "protective" of something that means a lot to you. Intellectually, I say more power to them, they deserve the greenbacks. Emotionally there's a tinge of "oh, now you care?" But mainly, my Hot Topic comment had to do with the fact that it feels marketed toward that crowd in the very writing of the music. Take a band like Obscura. They wrote a death metal album that was clearly not WRITTEN for widespread appeal, but it got featured at Hot Topic. Awesome, I am behind that 100%. However with this album, I feel like parts of it, at least, were written such that it could appear at something like a Hot Topic. Written to appeal to a certain type of potential customer. Since when did Morbid Angel write for a particular group of people? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Trey got out of listening to death metal for years and then discovered techno and...Marilyn Manson? That's what makes me wonder. If the outside stuff were just techno shit, which we know he has gotten into, then it'd SEEM more sincere. But the weird Rammstein/Manson etc. stuff...I don't buy that he got into that. Maybe David wrote that stuff, who knows.
[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]How does what someone else listens to or how they dress possibly affect me or my interests. A bunch of kids singing along to God of Emptiness, so what? They are there, they paid money just like you
It seems there is a great concern for image, whatever the hell that is supposed to be.[/quote]
I think you're right. I goofed on the emo looking kids because I personally think they look dorky. I don't begrudge them the right to enjoy a great band just because they look silly. I've met old school metalheads that went and got haircuts like that. And I made fun of them, but they didn't suddenly become less metal or less cool. Well, maybe a little less cool. Anyway, legions of kids singing along to GoE fills me with joy, no matter what they look like. Some other hard-on bearer said he hated that song, etc. Legions of kids singing Radikult would make me feel differently.
If Evil D sounded fruital as hell and the samples I heard were awesome, I'd still be goofing on how he looks like Nikki Sixx in the promo pictures and is wearing eyeliner and shit like that. I wouldn't respect him any less. I respect him less because of the lyrics he's written on this album. Even if the music ruled, I'd complain about the lyrics.
[quote name="Conservative_Heretic"]I can appreciate the starving artists mentality (not saying that is what this is) but I don't understand why the angst towards Hot Topic. Maybe I am just too old to understand that image is more important than taste. (This may seem like I am being argumentative and it is not meant that way, just curious)
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I think it's a valid point. If I did music professionally, I would not want to be a fucking starving artist. The last thing I want is for bands I love to barely make enough money to get by. You know why? Because when they start having families, all of a sudden there's pressure to either make way more money by selling out, or to hang it up and get a "real job." (And I totally agree--if you're going to have a family, that is your obligation: to support them as best you can. Anything less is selfish, IMO) I don't like either of those outcomes, and they can come about even without having to support kids. They can come about just because you're hungry and tried of fucking ramen noodles all the time. If I could snap my fingers and make Maveth a household name, and have their shit displayed at Hot Topic, I would. But if it took them writing music specifically to be featured there...I would wish them the best but I'd be disappointed. I want music that's sincere, from the head, heart and balls. I don't care where it's sold or who consumes it, as long as it was pure in its conception.
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I think I could tell, and based on the samples, they sound real. I really can't imagine Trey doing that! The drums definitely sound electronic on "Profundis"--I wouldn't be at all surprised if they made a "live" version of it. However, "Radikult" needs to stay a studio project unless the parts I haven't heard would cause a mass eruption of semen.
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