Sean Beavan mixing I

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 28 Jan 2011, 17:49

Not locking this thread... what you guys are saying is simply all speculation based on hardly anything. 6 drum tracks by Erik doesn't mean there's only 6 death metal tracks.

Just stop whining and wait for the end result you bunch of old women.

Hugo. · Post by **Hugo.** » 28 Jan 2011, 20:20

They could have four more tracks produced in an elecroey berzerker style

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 28 Jan 2011, 21:35

[quote name="Void"]Not locking this thread... what you guys are saying is simply all speculation based on hardly anything. 6 drum tracks by Erik doesn't mean there's only 6 death metal tracks.

Just stop whining and wait for the end result you bunch of old women.

[/quote]

This.

zim · Post by **zim** » 29 Jan 2011, 00:42

[quote name="Zajebiste!"]They could have four more tracks produced in an elecroey berzerker style

[/quote]

you should be slapped for even thinking that

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 29 Jan 2011, 09:56

[quote name="desolation"]
[quote name="Void"]Not locking this thread... what you guys are saying is simply all speculation based on hardly anything. 6 drum tracks by Erik doesn't mean there's only 6 death metal tracks.

Just stop whining and wait for the end result you bunch of old women.

[/quote]

This.[/quote]

beandorkio · Post by **beandorkio** » 30 Jan 2011, 02:17

[quote name="Zajebiste!"]They could have four more tracks produced in an elecroey berzerker style

[/quote]

me influence MA? that's unpossible!

Desoppus · Post by **Desoppus** » 31 Jan 2011, 21:33

This topic makes me a little skeptical.

Uni777 · Post by **Uni777** » 01 Feb 2011, 02:53

So far very different artists have been an inspiration for Trey.. The gathering, Pink Floyd.. and none of the albums sound like the artist that got Treys creative juices flowing.

It will never be as groundbreaking as Altars or have the impact of a Covenant but i'm sure it will be cool.

MA has always been developing and doing the things nobody was expecting.

I feel we are in for a big surprise.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 01 Feb 2011, 07:45

[quote name="beandorkio"]
[quote name="Zajebiste!"]They could have four more tracks produced in an elecroey berzerker style

[/quote]

me influence MA? that's unpossible!

[/quote]

I'm sure you've "influenced" ma's across the world. :tit:

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 01 Feb 2011, 08:11

I don't like The Monolith Death Cult.

Ninny · Post by **Ninny** » 01 Feb 2011, 23:33

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 02 Feb 2011, 02:19

I dont thing the inexpressible unique compositions of trey will ever lost.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 02 Feb 2011, 02:48

[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="desolation"]I would hate to see them become too fan-controlled. Sure, we all have things we passionately want out of our varied Morbid Angel experiences, but they are awesome because THEY are awesome - not because they do the things we want of them.[/quote]

QFT

Also, this quote would fit perfectly in the "mixing I" thread.[/quote]

Santyago · Post by **Santyago** » 02 Feb 2011, 07:11

Now I'm scared if the album has a lot of techno in it

MorbidAngela · Post by **MorbidAngela** » 02 Feb 2011, 07:47

[quote name="uni777"]I feel we are in for a big surprise.[/quote]

I agree.

VARG · Post by **VARG** » 02 Feb 2011, 11:19

[quote name="uni777"]I recently spoke to a good fellating lover of mine who has had the priviledge to hear a rough mix of I.

Whether this is a version before Sean Beavan has worked on it i don't know.

He told me:

Hey, just heard the new MA.. pretty vague...

Me..:

What do you mean by vague?

He:

Well, all the techno stuff...

I get the feeling this is gonna be a pretty experimental album...

And whatever the result, i feel they are not playing it safe.[/quote]

I don't think it's necesarily gonna suck. remember "Trooper" from Formulas? that one has kind of a techno-ish sound. (It's a syntheziser with the sound of a helicopter in the back)

Maybe the techno tracks are just instrumental tracks like that one. (but more techno obviously considering Trey's recent tastes) although I would prefer all that stuff got realesed as part of a bonus second disk, and not as part of the main album.

We can only hope...

zim · Post by **zim** » 02 Feb 2011, 12:16

I don't think the techno tracks will be anything similar to what's on his youtube page

xpocalypse · Post by **xpocalypse** » 02 Feb 2011, 15:43

the rest of the album needs to be better than Nevermore

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 02 Feb 2011, 23:03

the only thing going to disappoint us is vocals.

Desoppus · Post by **Desoppus** » 02 Feb 2011, 23:24

I look forward confidently, maybe it´s not the best album ever, but MA will not disappoint us I think.

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 02 Feb 2011, 23:59

all the MA albums have different sound, but the sound remains same for a single album.

nevermore gives a clue, It sounds like a faster version of gateways...

I dont like the fast vocal style

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 03 Feb 2011, 04:41

[quote name="Skintoxication"]
[quote name="lavaBorn"]the only thing going to disappoint us is vocals.[/quote]

because youve heard the album already?[/quote]

indeed... stop speculating like an old grumpy man. This is how rumors start.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 03 Feb 2011, 04:51

Without more info, one can only do is speculate or don't talk about it all, but that's not an option since the album is eagerly anticipated.

I think the vocals will be good enough, studio vocal recordings always sound better than live anyway.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 03 Feb 2011, 04:57

[quote name="Mutilator"]Without more info, one can only do is speculate or don't talk about it all, but that's not an option since the album is eagerly anticipated.[/quote]

ofcourse we can only speculate, but the sentence I referred to was without any ar.gument or well-based thought at all.

[quote name="Mutilator"]studio vocal recordings always sound better than live anyway.[/quote]

I absolutely disagree with that statement.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 03 Feb 2011, 05:33

Why disagree on that statement?

Comparing situations where vocal sound is produced are ideal in a studio and can be done over and over until it's perfect, while live it can fail due to many factors.

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 03 Feb 2011, 08:47

ok then i will change my sentence,

Vocals "may" dis-appoint "me", but I believe in azagthoth and i hope there is not much compositions by thor

TamPron · Post by **TamPron** » 03 Feb 2011, 12:36

I was actually hoping for contributions by Mr. Thor. Diversity and such.

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 03 Feb 2011, 17:10

i heard Bieber is going to be a guest!

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 03 Feb 2011, 17:14

[quote name="FUKKET"]i heard Bieber is going to be a guest!

[/quote]

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 03 Feb 2011, 17:16

beiber featuring MA

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 03 Feb 2011, 17:17

^ i dont even fucking know how to spell that bullshit

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 03 Feb 2011, 17:54

[quote name="Mutilator"]Why disagree on that statement?

Comparing situations where vocal sound is produced are ideal in a studio and can be done over and over until it's perfect, while live it can fail due to many factors.[/quote]

That is true, but the singers performance isn't always better on the album. I remember lots of moments with different bands where the singer does a better performance live than on the record, i.e. more soul, heart, energy.

Desoppus · Post by **Desoppus** » 03 Feb 2011, 23:19

[quote name="Void"]

That is true, but the singers performance isn't always better on the album. I remember lots of moments with different bands where the singer does a better performance live than on the record, i.e. more soul, heart, energy.[/quote]

Yep, I agree. Like Death´s "live 88". I think Chuck´s voice is much better on this video than album. Those growls are fucking amazing (especially at the beginning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yTPs0P4S8

M.Bison · Post by **M.Bison** » 03 Feb 2011, 23:57

Ross Dolan.

jawn galliano · Post by **jawn galliano** » 08 Feb 2011, 08:45

uni's contribution regarding the techno parts has me really, really worried. not about the integrity of the new material necessarily, but that i'm going to wind up looking like a tremendous douche for berating the shit out of everyone who's voiced concerns about techno influences.

I AM GONNA BE SUPER MAD IF I CALLED THAT ONE INCORRECTLY

User · Post by **User** » 08 Feb 2011, 08:48

i think ma with techno influences will still be very ma, they're not going to go all the way to crazy land, it would be inconsistent with their previous albums. although there is certainly diversity in their oeuvre their music is much more consistent than other bands. it has integrity and i believe that the new album isn't going to betray this integrity even if I adopts faster electronic influences than their other albums (which of course already have a lot of electronic tracks that arguably don't interrupt the vibe too much).

MorbidAngela · Post by **MorbidAngela** » 08 Feb 2011, 11:12

[quote name="lavaBorn"]beiber featuring MA

[/quote]

[quote name="lavaBorn"]the only thing going to disappoint us is vocals.[/quote]

,,,,in my opinion, the drums in particular will not have the same feel pete has. pete's sound & style is one of a kind..

Hugo. · Post by **Hugo.** » 08 Feb 2011, 18:31

Yeah pete is very subtle even during fruital fast bits. Like for the intro/verse of Prayer of Hatred he changes his rolls slightly after every bar or Heaving earth during the 4/4 blasting riff he alternates between an eight stroke roll and a six stroke roll with a stop. Just one of the many reasons to come back to MA again and again.

I can see Tim defaulting to eight stroke rolls from snare to tom quite a bit.

Although he said he will try to emulate pete's style and combine it with his own so i have a lot of faith in him. I personally think ....and time begins has some really creative drumming in places.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 08 Feb 2011, 19:42

I agree @ And time begins.

I love Heaving Earths opening riff, the drums are great and the accent shifts on the hi-hat are subtle but brilliant.

Desoppus · Post by **Desoppus** » 08 Feb 2011, 23:17

And don´t forget brilliant snare sound

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 09 Feb 2011, 00:12

indeed, great drum sound overall on F.

lavaBorn · Post by **lavaBorn** » 09 Feb 2011, 00:40

gateways dont have much blasts, but still the slow beats and kicks are so creative.

great cymbal work:

[youtube]yhKWW07zwvc[/youtube]

No one can take sandoval's place

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 09 Feb 2011, 03:20

Parts of this thread are an embarrassment to the bard, while other parts are awesome. The mabb must be having its period.

FUKKET · Post by **FUKKET** » 09 Feb 2011, 15:17

[quote name="lavaBorn"]gateways dont have much blasts, but still the slow beats and kicks are so creative.

great cymbal work:

[youtube]yhKWW07zwvc[/youtube]

No one can take sandoval's place[/quote]

but yuck drum sounds on G for me

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 10 Feb 2011, 02:18

They are digital.

bob_here · Post by **bob_here** » 10 Feb 2011, 02:47

more precisely the drums on Gateways were "sound replaced". Obviously Pete played his performance and then they triggered his hits with drum samples and mixed them in. Although, the samples

are more prominent on G. These days with advancement and flexibility of technology you could definitely create a convincing mix with samples. Back then, samples were used for "missed" hits or bad/weak hits through out the mix; they were an aid not a luxury. But it seems MA wanted to push it and just left it throughout. I'm not a fan of G drum sounds either. To me, Covenant and Formulas has sick drum tones.

Uni777 · Post by **Uni777** » 10 Feb 2011, 03:03

[quote name="TranscendingMusic"] To me, Covenant and Formulas has sick drum tones.[/quote]

Those recordings sound like a actual drumkit. I love those sounds.

vO)))id · Post by **vO)))id** » 10 Feb 2011, 03:18

[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="TranscendingMusic"] To me, Covenant and Formulas has sick drum tones.[/quote]

Those recordings sound like a actual drumkit. I love those sounds.[/quote]

Totally agreed.

Mutilator · Post by **Mutilator** » 10 Feb 2011, 03:57

I prefer the Blessed are the sick drumsound above all, and the Altars drumsound is very vintage; after that, Covenant and Formulas are good also.

MorbidAngela · Post by **MorbidAngela** » 10 Feb 2011, 08:44

[quote name="TranscendingMusic"]Formulas has sick drum tones.[/quote]

Formulas \m/

I like Formulas, Heretic & Covenant drums... Vocals, in my opinion, are righteous on Heretic & Formulas.. guitar is best on all.. also like the bass most in Gateways. MA is just all around