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[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]funny hypocrits those americans(the government) they have loads of nuclear weapons and actually the only country to ever use them and they say other people cant have them and others are danger to the world? :lol:[/quote]





People like you just don't get it, learn your history then come back to me on the whole "THE US IS THE MOST EVIL NATION EVER" I'm sick of this mentality. Every nation has comitted crimes against humanity 75% of today's nations admit to using torture since 2000 so stop acting like it's all the US when it's not. China anyone? What about the treatment of the Roma? What about the entire continent of Africa? Do you know about the race based warfare going on in that continent? There are gross violations of human rights everywhere.



I'd love to have a nuclear free world but it isn't going to happen any time soon and with nuts like those really in charge of Iraq I don't think that nation needs nuclear weapons.[/quote]



Learn YOUR history, USA is the biggest evil warmonger there is, its PURE evil, fact. They are hypocrits and lie to their own people and kill innocent people in iraq and now they want iran, you are a RETARD if you defend them. Also why are you bringing up other countries into this? we are talking about usa being hypocrits about NUCLEAR WEAPON, dont start talking about irrelevant stuff.[/quote]



Yes of course, the US is the biggest warmonger there is. That's why we were started both world wars. :necro:



If you're in fact, Iranian, you might be interested to know that your people (the Persians) were rather interested in armed conflict themselves. Over a much, much longer period of time than the United States has even existed. The Persians were oppressing indigenous populations with the best of them for quite some time. Yep.



As far as modern Iran goes, I must say you're being a bit premature about American sentiment. Most of us, in fact, do not give a flying fuck about the place. Let them have their nuclear status. Even the Ayatollahs know that they can't actually use them. They are, in supreme likelihood, well aware of the fact that Israel is itching to nuke someone off the planet.[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="abzu"]Again, Karmakane has brought on more fail than I can grasp. :frown:



Don't even bother, Noyka. Nutters like this are too deluded for any sort of discourse involving reality or things like facts.[/quote]

"nutters" you mean people who is able to LOGICALLY see through things like this and speak the TRUTH. Whats hard for you to grasp? usa is a hypocrit, they have nuclear weapons and the ONLY country to ever use them and they dont want to let iran even use nuclear technology for fuel? :lol: face the facts, usa wants to expand their empire and want a reason to start a new war, YOU are the nut if you cant grasp these simple logical things.[/quote]



You aren't entirely familiar with logic, other than the fact that you're skipping through it like a naked hippie in a meadow.



A logical argument isn't when you look at a small subset of the available information, and then determine that it supports your previous viewpoint.
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[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]1. Our government is fucked, but only we the citizens can bitch about this.

2. Our foreign policy in essence is good. We run this bitch.

3. Anyone who "hates America", should be enslaved, their kids shot, and their wives and daughters raped in front of them. Without us, they'd be slaves of the state (USSR).[/quote]

you must be either joking or extremely out of touch with reality.[/quote]



He's a troll, I'm not the only one that thinks this :santa:[/quote]
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[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]1. Our government is fucked, but only we the citizens can bitch about this.

2. Our foreign policy in essence is good. We run this bitch.

3. Anyone who "hates America", should be enslaved, their kids shot, and their wives and daughters raped in front of them. Without us, they'd be slaves of the state (USSR).[/quote]

you must be either joking or extremely out of touch with reality.[/quote]



He's a troll, I'm not the only one that thinks this :santa:[/quote]



Protip: Go learn what a troll is.



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[quote name="Nick"]trolls run the world :huh:[/quote]

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the only thing I'd like to allow for iranians is mass suicide. Few shit in the world : doubleoldreddnazi:
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[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]the only thing I'd like to allow for iranians is mass suicide. Few shit in the world : doubleoldreddnazi:[/quote]

hey, stop the insults, you sound very ignorant with that comment, a lot of iranians are very intelligent and also atheists, dont be so ignorant, btw freddie was an iranian.
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HbW



Stop protecting usa, im not talking about the people, im talking about the government, they want to constantly start new wars and now they want iran for expansion of their empire and include them in the nwo. USA will both enslave its own population and take over new countries and do the same to them, its reality.
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Ndmg needs to re-embrace the mabb ironic spirit. :redneck:



Of course I know that NOT all iranians are terrorists fanatics, but anyway the 80% of them are. Is not my fault if they are really sure that when they will die they will have 40 virgin chicks. So WHO is the ignorant??? Are the christians who infibulate women or oblige them to go outiside with a Black Bourka????



....if you want to die, DIE, but not let die innocents people in terrorist attack. They are cowards.



man, I'm from west. Of course I'm not an hypocrite who say "peace in the world...we are all the same etc.etc.". There are still barbarians bastards in this shit planet, and they are the Iranian and muslims terrorist. They only deserve to die.
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[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]Ndmg needs to re-embrace the mabb ironic spirit. :redneck:



Of course I know that NOT all iranians are terrorists fanatics, but anyway the 80% of them are. Is not my fault if they are really sure that when they will die they will have 40 virgin chicks. So WHO is the ignorant??? Are the christians who infibulate women or oblige them to go outiside with a Black Bourka????



....if you want to die, DIE, but not let die innocents people in terrorist attack. They are cowards.



man, I'm from west. Of course I'm not an hypocrite who say "peace in the world...we are all the same etc.etc.". There are still barbarians bastards in this shit planet, and they are the Iranian and muslims terrorist. They only deserve to die.[/quote]

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[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]Ndmg needs to re-embrace the mabb ironic spirit. :redneck:



Of course I know that NOT all iranians are terrorists fanatics, but anyway the 80% of them are. Is not my fault if they are really sure that when they will die they will have 40 virgin chicks. So WHO is the ignorant??? Are the christians who infibulate women or oblige them to go outiside with a Black Bourka????



....if you want to die, DIE, but not let die innocents people in terrorist attack. They are cowards.



man, I'm from west. Of course I'm not an hypocrite who say "peace in the world...we are all the same etc.etc.". There are still barbarians bastards in this shit planet, and they are the Iranian and muslims terrorist. They only deserve to die.[/quote]



man, its seems like the only iranian you have communicated with is me by those comments, 80%?? you actually think 80% of 70 million people are terrorists? :lol: A LOT of iranians arent even muslim! they PRETEND they are because they have to due to the totalitarian regime over there, in fact a lot of them are just like western people, you dont seem to know much about iran and its people so you shouldnt make ignorant comments like that.
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man, 80% was just for saying..........is 50%, is 30%??? I don't care. I only care to keep my ass distant from muslisms. That's all. I don't like this religion, I don't like this mentality and I hate terrorism.



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[quote name="Noyka"]"THE US IS THE MOST EVIL NATION EVER".[/quote]



yeah, I'm also tired to listen stuff like this. U.s.a. saved the ass of my country during the second world war



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[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]man, 80% was just for saying..........is 50%, is 30%??? I don't care. I only care to keep my ass distant from muslisms. That's all. I don't like this religion, I don't like this mentality and I hate terrorism.



:santa:[/quote]

same here, i dont like muslims either, i stay away from christians,muslims,jews etc they are all retards but as ive said ALOT of iranians arent even muslims, its not an arabic country, they have forced islam on the population and many of them just pretend to be muslim because if they dont they will get punished by the nazi like regime.
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[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]Ndmg needs to re-embrace the mabb ironic spirit. :redneck:



Of course I know that NOT all iranians are terrorists fanatics, but anyway the 80% of them are. [/quote]



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[quote name="KARMABLADE"]btw freddie was an iranian.[/quote]



No he wasn't. He was an Indian Parsi, born on the island of Zanzibar, grew up in India.



I'd think you'd know that, seeing as how he's your hero.
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I've choked on my weeties with laughter while reading this thread.

Karmablade is getting a crash-course in western humour. Best summed up by - don't believe everything everyone says. You'll get the hang of it.



I want to go skiing in Iran sometime over the next few years. Tehran looks like a pretty interesting place to hang out too.



That is of course unless that fool Ahmadinejad keeps babbling about wiping out Israel and the Jews while not allowing any external western bodies to confirm that their nuclear facilities are only for energy purposes, and Israel justifiably nukes the beautiful historical jewel of Persia into a pile of molten slag.
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[quote name="KARMABLADE"]

same here, i dont like muslims either, i stay away from christians,muslims,jews etc they are all retards[/quote]

What you fail to understand, is that this applies to all of humanity. Most atheists are morons as well.



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I have no doubt most atheists are idiots.



But I also have no doubt that the average intelligence of atheists is higher than that of theists.



What I can't understand is how so many of what is supposed to be the intelligent species fails to grasp basic logic/reasoning.
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[quote name="HbW"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]btw freddie was an iranian.[/quote]



No he wasn't. He was an Indian Parsi, born on the island of Zanzibar, grew up in India.



I'd think you'd know that, seeing as how he's your hero.[/quote]



I think i know what an iranian is slightly better than you since im an iranian myself, freddies parents were persian=iranian and he looks 100% iranian, its genetics. Its like a japanease hard-on bearer being born in germany, is he a german? no he is still japanease. The reason freddie is iranian is because the people with similar genetics like him are gathered in a place called iran.
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[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]

same here, i dont like muslims either, i stay away from christians,muslims,jews etc they are all retards[/quote]

What you fail to understand, is that this applies to all of humanity. Most atheists are morons as well.



I laugh every time I hear about the apparent intelligence of atheists compared to theists. pseudo-intellectualism.[/quote]

yes just cause you are an atheist doesnt mean you are intelligent, im just saying that its at least better than believing in organized religion.
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[quote name="Johnny"]I have no doubt most atheists are idiots.



But I also have no doubt that the average intelligence of atheists is higher than that of theists.



What I can't understand is how so many of what is supposed to be the intelligent species fails to grasp basic logic/reasoning.[/quote]

I suppose its all relative.



Maybe we take the smarter individuals as the supposed ideal, when they only make a small portion of humanity in contrast.



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[quote name="Uber Grim Kvlt"]
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]Ndmg needs to re-embrace the mabb ironic spirit. :redneck:



Of course I know that NOT all iranians are terrorists fanatics, but anyway the 80% of them are. Is not my fault if they are really sure that when they will die they will have 40 virgin chicks. So WHO is the ignorant??? Are the christians who infibulate women or oblige them to go outiside with a Black Bourka????



....if you want to die, DIE, but not let die innocents people in terrorist attack. They are cowards.



man, I'm from west. Of course I'm not an hypocrite who say "peace in the world...we are all the same etc.etc.". There are still barbarians bastards in this shit planet, and they are the Iranian and muslims terrorist. They only deserve to die.[/quote]

:idea: :xx:[/quote]
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[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="HbW"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]btw freddie was an iranian.[/quote]



No he wasn't. He was an Indian Parsi, born on the island of Zanzibar, grew up in India.



I'd think you'd know that, seeing as how he's your hero.[/quote]



I think i know what an iranian is slightly better than you since im an iranian myself, freddies parents were persian=iranian and he looks 100% iranian, its genetics. Its like a japanease hard-on bearer being born in germany, is he a german? no he is still japanease. The reason freddie is iranian is because the people with similar genetics like him are gathered in a place called iran.[/quote]

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[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="HbW"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]btw freddie was an iranian.[/quote]



No he wasn't. He was an Indian Parsi, born on the island of Zanzibar, grew up in India.



I'd think you'd know that, seeing as how he's your hero.[/quote]



I think i know what an iranian is slightly better than you since im an iranian myself, freddies parents were persian=iranian and he looks 100% iranian, its genetics. Its like a japanease hard-on bearer being born in germany, is he a german? no he is still japanease. The reason freddie is iranian is because the people with similar genetics like him are gathered in a place called iran.[/quote]





You'd think so, (and maybe it's just a language barrier), but the Parsi people have been genetically separated from the Persian people for over 1000 years.



[quote name="wikipedia"]a 2004 study in which Parsi mitochondrial DNA (matrilineal) was compared with that of the Iranians and Gujaratis determined that Parsis are genetically closer to Gujaratis than to Iranians. Taking the 2002 study into account, the authors of the 2004 study suggested "a male-mediated migration of the ancestors of the present-day Parsi population, where they admixed with local females [...] leading ultimately to the loss of mtDNA of Iranian origin"[/quote]



If you want to imagine you have an extra special cultural connection with you hero, then you go ahead. It's just not technically the case.
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The government faked that evidence to try and separate Kamakane from his hero.
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Really? O,O



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[quote name="Ninny"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]
[quote name="HbW"]
[quote name="KARMABLADE"]btw freddie was an iranian.[/quote]



No he wasn't. He was an Indian Parsi, born on the island of Zanzibar, grew up in India.



I'd think you'd know that, seeing as how he's your hero.[/quote]



I think i know what an iranian is slightly better than you since im an iranian myself, freddies parents were persian=iranian and he looks 100% iranian, its genetics. Its like a japanease hard-on bearer being born in germany, is he a german? no he is still japanease. The reason freddie is iranian is because the people with similar genetics like him are gathered in a place called iran.[/quote]

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This is where Freddie would be if Queen toured Iran[/quote]





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We helped them do this.



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Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.
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I don't think anybody should have them.



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[quote name="ManOfSteel"]Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.[/quote]



Iranian leadership believes that they need to start world chaos to bring armageddon followed by the 12 Imam. The US, despite it's corruption, would gain nothing from firing a nuc while the Iranian leadership (in their minds) would gain everything. This could also start an arms race in the middle east. With all the unrest this would cost the lives of millions.



Do I support nucs? No, however, with everything that's going on in the world they're currently a necessary evil. Nuclear defense technology especially. The US should have built the nuclear defense missel systems in Poland and the Czech Republic that was a huge stab in the back to allies who are well within range of Iran's nuclear technology. It also severely weakens us considering Obama wants to disarm America which is the wrong way to go with everything that's going on. The best offense is a good defense, something this administration has forgotten.
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[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="ManOfSteel"]Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.[/quote]



Iranian leadership believes that they need to start world chaos to bring armageddon followed by the 12 Imam.[/quote]



Please cite evidence.





[quote name="Noyka"]The US, despite it's corruption, would gain nothing from firing a nuc[/quote]



If they have nothing to gain then why do they have nuclear weapons?



[quote name="Noyka"]while the Iranian leadership (in their minds) would gain everything.[/quote]



Such as what?



What will they ever gain that the US isn't getting from its real actual aggression around the world?



[quote name="Noyka"]This could also start an arms race in the middle east. With all the unrest this would cost the lives of millions.[/quote]



I think you've missed the bit where the Middle East has already been set ablaze.



I mean seriously, are you stupid?
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:huh:
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what is it Johnny
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[quote name="ManOfSteel"]what is it Johnny[/quote]



Was responding to Nokya.
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[quote name="ManOfSteel"]



I think you've missed the bit where the Middle East has already been set ablaze.



I mean seriously, are you stupid?[/quote]



I'm not stupid, they don't have nuclear weapons yet and Iran having them would give another possibility of gaining them.



[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noykal"]Iranian leadership believes that they need to start world chaos to bring armageddon followed by the 12 Imam.[/quote]



Please cite evidence.

[/quote]



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said directly he believes in this, the Mullahs put him in power there is your evidence.





[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noyka"]The US, despite it's corruption, would gain nothing from firing a nuc[/quote]



If they have nothing to gain then why do they have nuclear weapons?[/quote]



They have them to defend against others who might attack. I support having nuclear defense systems in particular



[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noyka"]while the Iranian leadership (in their minds) would gain everything.[/quote]



Such as what?



What will they ever gain that the US isn't getting from its real actual aggression around the world?[/quote]



The IRanian government is part theorocracy this would mean in their minds they'd gain absolute chaos and the ability to Eliminate israel,





If I'm missing something please feel free to explain, I admit to not being 100% up on everything pertaining to this topic.





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[quote name="Johnny"]:huh:[/quote]



What do you not understand?
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I don't understand what you said. Nevermind.







What exactly does "Nuclear Technology" include?



Nuclear power and nuclear bombs? What else counts?
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[quote name="ManOfSteel"]Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.[/quote]



Personally I just think the whole region is too unstable and I already know what you will respond with (It's the wests/Israels fault).
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[quote name="ManOfSteel"]Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.[/quote]



Personally I just think the whole region is too unstable and I already know what you will respond with (It's the wests/Israels fault).[/quote]

Ugh. When WASN'T the middle east full of tumult? Oh I know... when Sumerians first settled millenia ago. It went to fucksville somewhere in the first raid and it hasn't come back yet.
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Re: Iran Has No Right to Nuclear Technology

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[quote name="Noyka"]

[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noykal"]Iranian leadership believes that they need to start world chaos to bring armageddon followed by the 12 Imam.[/quote]



Please cite evidence.

[/quote]



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said directly he believes in this, the Mullahs put him in power there is your evidence.

[/quote]



mistranslations and western (mostly US) propaganda. get your facts straight, lady, and stop spreading bullshit
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[quote name="ManOfSteel"]Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.[/quote]

Pah! We are WESTERNERS. We know what we're doing! Self-examination? That's for tree-hugging liberal pinkos!
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Re: Iran Has No Right to Nuclear Technology

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[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="ManOfSteel"]



I think you've missed the bit where the Middle East has already been set ablaze.



I mean seriously, are you stupid?[/quote]



I'm not stupid, they don't have nuclear weapons yet and Iran having them would give another possibility of gaining them.[/quote]



So?



[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noyka"]Iranian leadership believes that they need to start world chaos to bring armageddon followed by the 12 Imam.[/quote]



Please cite evidence.[/quote]



Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said directly he believes in this, the Mullahs put him in power there is your evidence.[/quote]



No that's not evidence. That's your hunch.



Evidence would be presenting actual statements by the president of Iran to the effect of: "We are going to bring Armageddon so that the 12 imam can enter/take form" or an actual policy of that government that reflects that goal.



Either show us this evidence or stop cheapening the discussion with hunches.





[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noyka"]The US, despite it's corruption, would gain nothing from firing a nuc[/quote]



If they have nothing to gain then why do they have nuclear weapons?[/quote]



They have them to defend against others who might attack.[/quote]



By that logic, Iran should also have nukes to defend against those who might attack.



[quote name="Noyka"]I support having nuclear defense systems in particular[/quote]



Me too. You can't be too trustful of a few countries with a monopoly over such destructive weapons.



[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="ManOfSteel"]
[quote name="Noyka"]while the Iranian leadership (in their minds) would gain everything.[/quote]



Such as what?



What will they ever gain that the US isn't getting from its real actual aggression around the world?[/quote]



The IRanian government is part theorocracy this would mean in their minds they'd gain absolute chaos and the ability to Eliminate israel,[/quote]



You're confusing "in their minds", with "in my mind" (yours).





[quote name="Noyka"]If I'm missing something please feel free to explain, I admit to not being 100% up on everything pertaining to this topic.[/quote]



Well you've missed lots of fundamental things. For one you've completely failed to answer the questions I've raised.



I would try to explain things to you to bring your awareness level from 0% to something more respectable, but seeing as you don't read more than two lines and dictionary definitions, I think it would be wasted effort.



[quote name="Noyka"]Sorry about earlier grammar/quoting mistakes, I'm a bit sleep deprived at the moment :redneck:[/quote]



I think you are not just sleep deprived, but also intelligence deprived.
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Re: Iran Has No Right to Nuclear Technology

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[quote name="mabb_"]
[quote name="ManOfSteel"]Somebody give me one good reason why the US should be allowed to keep nuclear weapons and not Iran.[/quote]



Personally I just think the whole region is too unstable and I already know what you will respond with (It's the wests/Israels fault).[/quote]



And?
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