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SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 00:59
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Ok. I am working a lot on speed, I'm jamming after a lot of time Troy Stetina "Speed mechanics for lead guitar" again and I admit is very useful. :xx:

I really want to reach a GREAT speed on solos. But of course, I don't mean "Slayerish solos", that are fucking storm of Floyd Rose effects and thousands notes without a precise combination. As some of you know, I'm a fan of that fat able-bodied chap of Yngwie Malmsteen, so I'm working on very melodic and neoclassical oriented solos and trying to bring them on a big speed.

I use of course methronome and now I can reach 140 without any particular problems :idea: ( of course solos not of 3 notes)

I admit is very dificult being PRECISE and speed. A lot of exercise is required



post here some speed exercise u use. Tabs and shit like this well accepted :xx:





let's go speeeeeeeeeeeeeeed faster than the speed of light of hell fucking god :god:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 01:30
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
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fuck. I wanna play like that

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 01:34
by zim
Just keep practicing aod and you'll be shredding like Malmsteen. :bang:



I've read that Yngwie said he never practiced doing exercises and stuff like that, he said that anytime he picked up his guitar all he did was just jam.

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 01:54
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
mmm not so sure. Of course about Yngwie 70% is natural talent for guitar playing. But I am not sure he only "jam". I am sure he did a lot of exercise too. He is not kerry king, he knows what he is doing on that wood.

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 01:55
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
* waiting Devy for an opinion on this thread*

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 01:57
by zim
I'll scan the article later tonight so you can check it out. I think I have a few Yngwie Guitar World mags.

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 01:58
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
tnks a lot man :rshot:



I see Yngwie interviews on the youtube but his english is not so clear for my italian ears :tear:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 06:49
by Uros
Well, no wonder that YM claims he was " jus' jammin' ", because he just wants to come across as an artist playing from the heart, but he certainly had exercised a lot in the past (he's clearly stagnating a lot these days).



Anyway, Aod you have the right book, Troy's book is really good. Don't search for more random exercises, just stick to the Stetina's program.

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 16 May 2009, 16:59
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Tnks Uros. :xx: Yeah the Troy book is very useful and I'm growing in quality with it. I need exercise as much as possible.

I agree about YM. Is clear that he exercised a LOT.

p.s. nice avatar :redneck:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 19 May 2009, 23:09
by Hugo.
I heard Yngwie played half a step flat on 8s!

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 20 May 2009, 17:03
by Haunty
[quote name="MorbidAngle"]I heard Yngwie played half a step flat on 8s![/quote]



I play in drop-z on spiderwebs. Eat it, malmsteen!!!

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 20 May 2009, 21:06
by Devy
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]* waiting Devy for an opinion on this thread*[/quote]



<3



To be honest I'm not sure there's a quick answer. All you can do is practice. I'll gladly write up a few exercises for you and email them over as guitar tab if you like, other than that it's down to pushing your limits and gradually getting more accurate over time :santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 22 May 2009, 01:05
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[quote name="Devy"]
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]* waiting Devy for an opinion on this thread*[/quote]



<3



To be honest I'm not sure there's a quick answer. All you can do is practice. I'll gladly write up a few exercises for you and email them over as guitar tab if you like, other than that it's down to pushing your limits and gradually getting more accurate over time :santa:[/quote]





hey devy :santa:



why not? If u have cool exercises your emails are of course wHellcome :xx: :xx: :xx:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 22 May 2009, 03:12
by Devy
This one should help. It sounds sort of neo-classical too which should give you an incentive to play it really fucking fast :xx:



Image



*edit* Shit, it cut the end off the fourth bar. It's just the same pattern again :santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 22 May 2009, 16:06
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
looks cool. Thanks fellating lover, I'll work it soon :xx:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 22 May 2009, 18:36
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
I'm playng it. Very very nice, yeah, neoclassical influenced. :idea:



thank u devy :xx: :santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 22 May 2009, 21:56
by Hugo.
Heres a piece i composed, its great for warming up, pretty nice to listen to also. Is played in 3s and i alternate pick all of it.





----------7-12-7-------------------7-12-7-------------------5-8-5-------------------7-12-7------------

--------10------10--------------8---------8---------------6-------6---------------10------10---------

----7-9-----------9-7---------9-------------9-----------7-----------7---------7-9-----------9-7-------

7-10------------------10----9-----------------9-------7---------------7---7-10------------------10---

------------------------7-11--------------------11-5-8------------------8-------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------







----------8-128------------------3-8-3--------------------------7-12-7---------------------------7-10-7----------

--------9-------9--------------4-------4---------------------8-----------8---------------------9----------9---------

------10----------10---------5-----------5----------------9----------------9------------7-10--------------10-7-----

----10--------------10-7----5---------------5-----------9-------------------9-----7-9----------------------------9-7-

8-12---------------------3-7-------------------8-7-11-------------------------12-------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





Let me know what you guys think :santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 23 May 2009, 07:53
by FUKKET
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]



fuck. I wanna play like that[/quote]



I enjoy the Fat Swede, but there's something that i hate about his playing too, and i can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's just too 'classical' ? - but i love classical music, so i am confused :huh:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 24 May 2009, 01:28
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
The exercise Devy posted .I played it at only 100 of metronome ( the tic-tac-tic-tac u listen is the metronome amplified from the PC, the rest is my guitar recorded just with a little mp3 player, so the sound is meh) , so not so speed. But I'm jamming it from yesterday night so I need to improve speed on it. Anyway I consider it very nice and useful for exercizing left hand fingers :xx:



jam it:



<!-- m -->http://rapidshare.de/files/47273901/REC001.mp3.html<!-- m -->



:santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 24 May 2009, 01:33
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
[quote name="FUKKET"]
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]



fuck. I wanna play like that[/quote]



I enjoy the Fat Swede, but there's something that i hate about his playing too, and i can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's just too 'classical' ? - but i love classical music, so i am confused :huh:[/quote]





The fact his solos are "classical" oriented is the thing I love. Pentatonic scales are great, are a classic for rock'n roll, but they bore me after a while cause is always the same . Classical oriented solos just makes me cum



2 schools:



gibson = Page,Slash etc.etc. :xx: :xx:

fender = Blackmore,Malmsteen etc.etc. :xx: :xx: :xx: :xx: :xx: :xx:



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The exercise Devy posted .I played it at only 100 of metronome ( the tic-tac-tic-tac u listen is the metronome amplified from the PC, the rest is my guitar recorded just with a little mp3 player, so the sound is meh) , so not so speed. But I'm jamming it from yesterday night so I need to improve speed on it. Anyway I consider it very nice and useful for exercizing left hand fingers :xx:



jam it:



<!-- m -->http://rapidshare.de/files/47273901/REC001.mp3.html<!-- m -->



:santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 02:37
by Devy
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]The exercise Devy posted .I played it at only 100 of metronome ( the tic-tac-tic-tac u listen is the metronome amplified from the PC, the rest is my guitar recorded just with a little mp3 player, so the sound is meh) , so not so speed. But I'm jamming it from yesterday night so I need to improve speed on it. Anyway I consider it very nice and useful for exercizing left hand fingers :xx:



jam it:



<!-- m -->http://rapidshare.de/files/47273901/REC001.mp3.html<!-- m -->



:santa:[/quote]



Good work sir :xx:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 02:45
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Thank you Devy :santa:



But 100 metronome is slow. I want to improve it of course :xx:



p.s. sorry for the shit sound quality but is taken with the mp3 player rec and the metronome tic tac came from the Pc speakers



:rshot:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 02:48
by Devy
But it shows promise! It was pretty tight at that speed so it won't be long before you're shredding like Yngwie on a sugar rush

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 02:59
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
:beer: :beer: :beer:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 03:19
by Devy
:doubleoldencouragement:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 03:23
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
yeah :idea:



devy do u play often in a day? how many hours?

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 03:48
by Devy
To be honest I don't really play all that much. When I do play it's for fun though, I don't like doing exercises and stuff. To answer your question though, not counting band practice I probably only play about four or five hours a week.

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 06:36
by FUKKET
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]But 100 metronome is slow.[/quote]



start slow & work your way up! :santa:



Hey AOD, are yu a fan of Ron Jarzombek?

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 07:52
by zim
Ron Jarzombek = major win

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 15:10
by zim
[quote name="Devy"]This one should help. It sounds sort of neo-classical too which should give you an incentive to play it really fucking fast :xx:



Image



*edit* Shit, it cut the end off the fourth bar. It's just the same pattern again :santa:[/quote]



this reminds me of Death Certificate

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 15:50
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
devy :santa:



fukket: no I don't know him :blush:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 16:03
by zim
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]devy :santa:



fukket: no I don't know him :blush:[/quote]



(with alex webster)

[youtube]1sE6j4ntzaE[/youtube]

[youtube]O8NjgZdWfLY[/youtube]

[youtube]lPQ9Q5IUhcg[/youtube]

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 16:14
by FUKKET
[quote name="ANGEL OF DESEASE"]fukket: no I don't know him :blush:[/quote]



i just thought of him because he does good exercise stuffs (from what i've heard)



and Blotted Science FTW :xx:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 25 May 2009, 20:42
by Hugo.
Ok, my last post was wrong. This is what i meant to write.







----------7-12-7------------------------12------------------------8----------------------------7-12-7-----------------

--------10------10-----------------7-9-----9-7--------------5--7----7-5------------------10-----------10------------

----7-9-----------9-7------------9--------------9-----------7-------------7-----------7-9-------------------9-7-------

7-10------------------10------9------------------9-------7------------------7---7-10----------------------------10---

--------------------------7-11---------------------11-5-8----------------------8---------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------







--------------13------------------------3-8-3----------------------------7-12-7---------------------------7-10-7----------

--------8-10----10-8---------------3-5-------5-3--------------------7-9--------9-7---------------------9---------9---------

------10--------------10-----------5---------------5----------------9-----------------9------------7-10--------------10-7-----

----10-------------------10-7----5-------------------5-----------9-----------------------9-----7-9------------------------9-7-

8-12--------------------------3-7------------------------8-7-11----------------------------12---------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 19:46
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
hey Devycus, have you got new stuff, like that neoclassical exercise???



my fingers are hungry :xx: :xx: :bang:







tnX :santa:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 01:57
by Devy
Sorry for the delay, I keep forgetting to visit the board! Do you want more in that style, so not really any sweeping or showing off stuff, just speed exercises that sound good to the ear?

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 03:04
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
mmm yeah, something good to ear , but useful for speed :idea:



p.s. when you want, don't worry :santa:



:xx: tnks

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 19 Sep 2009, 02:20
by Devy
Rather than come up with something original, I decided to just steal something from a song that I think you'd like. That song = Concerto by Cacophony. The main lick in the song is great for practicing accuracy and speed, plus it sounds as neoclassical as it's possible to get without having rickets and dying young. This part of the song is 0:52 - 1:14 in the video below :santa:


<!-- ia0 -->Concerto tab.JPG<!-- ia0 -->


[youtube]Jamc3NYRFMI[/youtube]

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 19 Sep 2009, 02:48
by ANGEL OF DESEASE
Tnkx a lot Devy, I'll work on it as soon as possibile :xx: :xx: :xx:

Re: SPEED: my fucking aim

Posted: 19 Sep 2009, 05:16
by zim
my alternate picking speed for soloing has really gone to hell. all year I've been sweeping and playing legato style so much that i haven't really practice alternate picking on higher notes. :oldryan: