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Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 03:16
by Shredlord
Are there any super-fruital/technical bands (Hate Eternal, Decrepit Birth, Necrophagist, Brain Drill, etc.) with an actual singer along the lines of Dio? I find myself liking growled vocals less each day.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 03:36
by Devy
There's a band called Electro Quarterstaff who are pretty good who have no vocals at all. That's about as close to your request as I can get without resorting to Nevermore :redneck:



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Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 04:36
by Anjel
You should start one, seriously.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:12
by zim
that just sounds like a really bad idea, no offense

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:21
by Verbal
why did you have to say "no offense"?

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:28
by rhino
:necro:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:38
by zim
[quote name="Verbal"]why did you have to say "no offense"?[/quote]

:sicken:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:43
by Devy
TO APOLOGISE IS TO SHOW WEAKNESS!

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:49
by zim
i guess it's not very fruital



[fruital]IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING STUPID IDEA.. IN BLOOD[/fruital]

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 05:51
by Verbal
that's the spirit! now go for the jugular!



EDIT: and to think you had derek vinyard in your avatar :frown:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 06:09
by Abzu
[quote name="Verbal"]that's the spirit! now go for the jugular!



EDIT: and to think you had derek vinyard in your avatar :frown:[/quote]

It must have been in the spirit of shower-scene Derek Vinyard.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 08:36
by Meat Engine
Singing in place of growls would be, if anything, a distraction or a gimmick. There are instances where it works, kind of, for thrash bands. Think "Pray For Death" by Heathen.



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Just for kicks, I'll throw in "Ready To Strike" by Jag Panzer.



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Fast...yeah. You can do fast. Heavy is possible, but even Dio was heavy. fruital? I doubt it. There was a lot wrong with The Unspoken King, not the least of which was the band's attempt to shoehorn a bad vocalist and worse singer into formerly fruital music.



This is the extent to which I've heard singing work in death metal, and some will disagree with even that assumption. Listen to the chorus, and then imagine trying to sing the entirety of it, nevermind the whole damn song.



[youtube]mXS5AEZ-8_s[/youtube]



Singing can encompass a lot of emotions, but pure, dripping venom is not one of them.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 08:38
by Meat Engine
FYI, that harmonized portion during the solo in "Speed Of Darkness" rocks all your balls off.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 10:55
by Shredlord
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]FYI, that harmonized portion during the solo in "Speed Of Darkness" rocks all your balls off.[/quote]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. (He's referring to Excarnum, my former instrumental death metal band). Instrumental would probably would be my first preference. I just thought it would be an interesting experiment to combine brutality with singing! All this attention on Dio lately, and my renewed interest in him, just got me to thinking.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 11:37
by Shredlord
[quote name="Devy"]There's a band called Electro Quarterstaff who are pretty good who have no vocals at all. That's about as close to your request as I can get without resorting to Nevermore :redneck: [/quote]



Good stuff--thanks!

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 12:56
by shadowalk
Closest I can think of the description is Fear Factory...but I gather that's not really what this thread is all about.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 15:16
by TamPron
I dig the cleans on the newest god dethroned, wish there was more of that piss.



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Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 16:35
by Anjel
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]FYI, that harmonized portion during the solo in "Speed Of Darkness" rocks all your balls off.[/quote]



Harmonizing. :xx:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 19:09
by Devy
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]This is the extent to which I've heard singing work in death metal, and some will disagree with even that assumption. Listen to the chorus, and then imagine trying to sing the entirety of it, nevermind the whole damn song.



[youtube]mXS5AEZ-8_s[/youtube]



Singing can encompass a lot of emotions, but pure, dripping venom is not one of them.[/quote]



I put it to you sir that you just wanted an excuse to talk about The Crown :redneck:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 20:20
by Hugo.
Not completely fruital, but i love the singing on the first and second Haunted albums.



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Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 21:12
by Meat Engine
[quote name="Shredlord"]
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]FYI, that harmonized portion during the solo in "Speed Of Darkness" rocks all your balls off.[/quote]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. (He's referring to Excarnum, my former instrumental death metal band). Instrumental would probably would be my first preference. I just thought it would be an interesting experiment to combine brutality with singing! All this attention on Dio lately, and my renewed interest in him, just got me to thinking.[/quote]



Wait, what? I was talking about The Crown.



[quote name="Devy"]
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]This is the extent to which I've heard singing work in death metal, and some will disagree with even that assumption. Listen to the chorus, and then imagine trying to sing the entirety of it, nevermind the whole damn song.



[youtube]mXS5AEZ-8_s[/youtube]



Singing can encompass a lot of emotions, but pure, dripping venom is not one of them.[/quote]



I put it to you sir that you just wanted an excuse to talk about The Crown :redneck:[/quote]



Lies and slander! :redneck:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 11 Jun 2010, 03:40
by Shredlord
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]
[quote name="Shredlord"]
[quote name="The Fu Monster"]FYI, that harmonized portion during the solo in "Speed Of Darkness" rocks all your balls off.[/quote]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. (He's referring to Excarnum, my former instrumental death metal band). Instrumental would probably would be my first preference. I just thought it would be an interesting experiment to combine brutality with singing! All this attention on Dio lately, and my renewed interest in him, just got me to thinking.[/quote]



Wait, what? I was talking about The Crown.

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Well, shit, I take it back! We have a song called "The Speed of Dark"--I thought you just misquoted it!

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 11 Jun 2010, 15:44
by Spirits of the Deep Waters
Check out CONFESSOR



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Ah i Love this band

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 12 Jun 2010, 04:16
by TamPron
:oldryan:

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 12 Jun 2010, 06:20
by Meat Engine
Sludgy like Soilent Green, but with terrible awful horrible bad vocals.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 12 Jun 2010, 06:22
by Devy
That seems to be as close to clean vocals with fruital music as this thread is going to get. It's not a place I can say I like being.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 12 Jun 2010, 11:24
by Shredlord
[quote name="Devy"]That seems to be as close to clean vocals with fruital music as this thread is going to get. It's not a place I can say I like being.[/quote]

It's not fruital enough...plus, I had that CD years ago...the singer is annoying!

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 12 Jun 2010, 16:26
by Spirits of the Deep Waters
I didn't like this at first either, but it became a possession :thingy: i couldn't stop listening to it, even if I wasn't sure if i liked it or not.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 14 Jun 2010, 18:26
by Hugo.
How could anyone not think of Augury? They have shitloads of clean singing.

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 16 Jun 2010, 17:25
by Mutilator
Sacred Reich



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Mighty mighty bosstones:



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Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 05:43
by zim
Here is some real singing and brutality Shredlord.



DEATH METAL VERSION

[youtube]oemgqr1t60A[/youtube]

Re: Brutality with real singing?

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 09:56
by Shredlord
[quote name="zimberly"]Here is some real singing and brutality Shredlord.



DEATH METAL VERSION

[youtube]oemgqr1t60A[/youtube][/quote]

Fuck yeah! :bang: