Blessed by far. One of the best Morbid Angel albums ever and certainly one of the most important death metal records of all time.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 28 Apr 2023, 23:24
by Grudge
What you're all saying effectively is that the best album Carcass have ever released is beneath any of the 3-4 great MA albums.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 28 Apr 2023, 23:27
by Grudge
I'm a MA fan boy obviously, but come on, Necrotism is better. It's not better than Covenant or Formulas, but isn't it better than Altars at least? I'm including production values, what actually sounds better at home, instead of how it sounds at a concert.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 29 Apr 2023, 00:20
by jawn galliano
i think it's fair to say necroticism is a better-sounding album than abominations through blessed, and a great many other landmark death metal albums for that matter. but it's also fair to say there are countless albums that sound much better and have slicker productions than necroticism, but which in turn could never in a million years hold a candle to it. i don't think production is really ever a decisive factor for me in terms of my overall appraisal of whether i like one album over another.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 29 Apr 2023, 01:33
by Svartmetall
Now imagine 'Necroticism...' with 'Heartwork's production. And 'Altars...' with 'Covenant's production. It's amazing the difference sound makes; I've always said my favourite MA album is a coin-toss between C and F, but if F had C's sound it would be no contest.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 29 Apr 2023, 04:08
by deckard
tough choice between the two
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 29 Apr 2023, 08:07
by shadowalk
To be honest, I wasn’t that big on Carcass in the first place save for a few albums. I’m the type that loves Terrorizer’s World Downfall album more than any Carcass album.
Yeah, pretty easy choice too. Rutan brought a lot to MA. Also helps that D and G absolutely slap in heaviness, production and vocals.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 01 May 2023, 19:14
by User
i much prefer vocals on B to D, of course G has some good vox but it's uneven as fuckitties
regarding heaviness ... there's a big difference in production between those three albums, and as we know bats production has its critics, but B is still heavy as fuck
i'm going to listen to it right now ... LOUD
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 01 May 2023, 22:43
by Grudge
Isn't Necrotism supposed to be the album that kicked off a whole genre of technical death metal?
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 01 May 2023, 22:45
by User
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 01 May 2023, 22:49
by zim
don't know if i've ever heard that
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 02 May 2023, 03:56
by Ryeknow
Don't think so imran
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 02 May 2023, 06:00
by Mesarthim
I think he’s thinking of Gorguts considered dead which came out the same year.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 02 May 2023, 06:19
by droidspawn
Erosion of sanity was more technical than considered dead.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 02 May 2023, 08:47
by jawn galliano
i don't think you can really pin technical advancement on any one band, as it was happening in parallel across the whole genre. certainly considered dead was very technically accomplished for 1991; but so was BATS, effigy, unquestionable presence, etc etc.. and more importantly just beyond the mechanical developments, those bands were continuing to develop their own unique sounds and actually putting out good music! so there were a lot of death metal bands who played a lot of technically-complex material, but that technicality was always a means to a grander end.
i've always considered tech-death a later development in the late gloryhole era /early 2000s that just kinda plucked that one aspect of the genre that developed throughout the early-middle decade and ran with it. and that wave was IMO mostly about athleticism, which is fine, but not very interesting or enduring for me.
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 03 May 2023, 09:58
by shadowalk
Tech-death to me...I remember that band, Behold...the Arctopus (my friends and I just call it Behold the Octopus)
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 03 May 2023, 10:50
by Mesarthim
I mean technically speaking Athiest…1990 were probably the start though I suppose one could argue they were “prog” or progressive death metal.
But otherwise I agree with stormy - Necrophagist - Onset was 1999 and after that you started to see a tons of bands playing technical death metal
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 03 May 2023, 23:46
by zim
onset of putrefaction is that old wtf
Re: Necroticism vs blessed are the sick
Posted: 04 May 2023, 00:26
by jawn galliano
and you can go back even further than 1990, since a good chunk of piece of time predated its release, having appeared on older demos. and ditto for their contemporaries like gorguts, suffocation, MA, etc., who all recycled older material into their earlier full-length releases (and of course, MA in particular mined that vein for longer than most, though the later examples were pretty markedly distinct from the rest of the material they appeared alongside). it really was an iterative process that kinda blows apart the idea of a single eureka moment where any one style or approach came into being, or that a single band pioneered it.