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it seems like theres a lot of folks who think that they are no interesting death metal bands around today.



so what about black metal? theres got to be some hope somewhere in underground metal right?



Discuss.

i've said it before, that black metal is the only genre that continues to evolve while others have stagnated.



I think there is a lot of hope for black metal's future.

i respectfully disagree with the above post



black metal has become more aesthetically diverse, i'd say, but ultimately we end up with a whole mess of new bands finding slightly different ways to say absolutely nothing worthwhile.

i agree with lummy.



the black metal community here in San Francisco is way bigger than the death metal. theres lots of great local bands. most of the progressive/experimental stuff is ambient and noise shit though. But the local black metal bands here all play old school style BM. Its quite enjoyable. My friends has been working on some killer black metal that is insane. his riffs are really unique and complex. once he gives me a copy ill post it or something.

perhaps.this so called message isn't nearly as important to me as just the overall music and the atmosphere or emotions that it evokes.

[quote name="Famous Mortimer"]i respectfully disagree with the above post



black metal has become more aesthetically diverse, i'd say, but ultimately we end up with a whole mess of new bands finding slightly different ways to say absolutely nothing worthwhile.[/quote]

thats a good point. metal in general is having a tough time nowadays finding anything worthwhile to say. the genres been banging us in the head with the "do what thou wilt" message for a long time now. People who i talk to who are up and coming and writing music have all taken a sort of sci fi turn and are sending messages of a more "psychedelic" nature, you could say. do you know what i mean by that?

[quote name="Lumbergh"]perhaps.this so called message isn't nearly as important to me as just the overall music and the atmosphere or emotions that it evokes.[/quote]

and i think this is where BM excels. there arent many DM bands out there who invoke any sort of diverse atmosphere outside of the standard DM atmosphere that has been prevalent for some time now.

Urfaust, The Ruins of Beverast, Nahvalr, Hellveto

Urfaust



"Verräterischer, Nichtswürdiger Geist" is fucking awesome

Horna is fucking rad as well. i love the slide-y riffs

I Shalt Become, Austere, Wedard and Krohm are just a few of the more interesting black metal acts of today that come to mind.





[quote name="Lumbergh"]black metal is the only genre that continues to evolve while others have stagnated.

[/quote]





This.

as far as interesting bands go, you can throw a stone and hit one.





Negură Bunget

Deathspell Omega

Blut aus Nord

Control Human Delete

Walknut

Urfaust

Austere

Watain

Spectral Lore



just to name a few

Woe

[quote name="Lumbergh"]perhaps.this so called message isn't nearly as important to me as just the overall music and the atmosphere or emotions that it evokes.[/quote]



i can dig, but to me, i think what separates the good from the great is a binding together of all those elements. to clarify on my original point, i don't mean to say that i think modern black metal is necessarily bad, but rather that it suffers from a lack of greatness.



[quote name="Teignub"]thats a good point. metal in general is having a tough time nowadays finding anything worthwhile to say. the genres been banging us in the head with the "do what thou wilt" message for a long time now. People who i talk to who are up and coming and writing music have all taken a sort of sci fi turn and are sending messages of a more "psychedelic" nature, you could say. do you know what i mean by that?[/quote]



yeah, i agree absolutely -- it's kind of devolved into an ocean of that individualistic sentiment, which provides a natural lead-in to the more ridiculous suicidal/depression themes, which have been prevalent for a number of years now. that to me is absolutely the antithesis of the spirit and atmosphere of the older waves of black metal, which has always had a sort of awe-inspiring quality to it.



i'm not quite in tune with what the psychedelic themes are all about, but certainly, it sounds promising compared to the above.

by psychedelic i mean what you were talking about. the awe-inspiring, empowering themes. In a similar line with the Pagan BM in a sense that it is empowering as an anti-capitalist, anti-westernization, anti-colonization, anti-christian, et cetera. manner. Themes of the cosmos and such. think Voivod or Mithras or something of that ilk. And sci-fi in the sense of warnings of a vice squad-state dystopian future, a Philip K Dick book in black metal form or something.



Im probably not being all that clear but i think Im getting my point across

:grimspacemetal:

Teggy's last post made me realize that I forgot to put Darkspace in my list. What an awesome band.

[quote name="Teignub"]by psychedelic i mean what you were talking about. the awe-inspiring, empowering themes. In a similar line with the Pagan BM in a sense that it is empowering as an anti-capitalist, anti-westernization, anti-colonization, anti-christian, et cetera. manner. Themes of the cosmos and such. think Voivod or Mithras or something of that ilk. And sci-fi in the sense of warnings of a vice squad-state dystopian future, a Philip K Dick book in black metal form or something.



Im probably not being all that clear but i think Im getting my point across[/quote]



loud and clear, mang. i approve!



make sure to let them know that too, because it's pretty important for people to know that they have my approval on these things

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[quote name="shitty the sandwitch"]Teggy's last post made me realize that I forgot to put Darkspace in my list. What an awesome band.[/quote]

listening to them now. i like

there's a few popping up lately, like Xasthur and the one i downloaded recently, Trayjen, but i'd have to say Deathspell Omega

anyone think McBerko will join up?

[quote name="shitty the sandwitch"]Darkspace in my list. What an awesome band.[/quote]







i see this pic & 'Cenobites' comes to mind

Most definitely fucking Blut Aus Nord.

Deathspell Omega

Absu

I'm so tired of corpsepaint.

[quote name="FUKKET"]there's a few popping up lately, like Xasthur and the one i downloaded recently, Trayjen, but i'd have to say Deathspell Omega [/quote]



xasthur has been around for quite some time, releasing more or less the same thing over and over and over... as far as depression black metal goes xasthur is one of the better examples, but you don't need much more than one album to get the full experience.



DSO is super fancy, so long as you can put aside the whole 'orthodox black metal' nonsense.



amd like a couple others mentioned, blut aus nord is good stuff as well, but skip odinist.

[quote name="Famous Mortimer"]xasthur has been around for quite some time, releasing more or less the same thing over and over and over... as far as depression black metal goes xasthur is one of the better examples, but you don't need much more than one album to get the full experience.[/quote]



yeah, i know and agree. I only disocovered them :$



[quote name="Famous Mortimer"]DSO is super fancy, so long as you can put aside the whole 'orthodox black metal' nonsense.[/quote]



yeah, it's silly.

i play 'orthodox sci-fi rock'



also. I enjoyed Cold World, their album was cool

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=57431

thanks.

[quote name="FUKKET"]i play 'orthodox sci-fi rock' [/quote]

Some BM today is good, most of it is horrible. A lot just try to copy Burzum, or Immortal.



Xasthurs "Through Bloodstained Mirrors" is a masterpiece though.

thanks everybody!!



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this is fucking

The Ruins Of Beverast - "Unlock The Shrine"

deathspell omega

I really dislike most of the bands mentioned in this thread, and the ones I do like I consider just "decent", meaning enough not to bore me. I can't think of a single bm band that can really really peak my interest.

Funeral Mist

DSO

Marduk

How the fuck could I forget about Shining?? they're fucking awesome and their new album has to come out, ASAP... finally!

[quote name="Void"]How the fuck could I forget about Shining?? they're fucking awesome and their new album has to come out, ASAP... finally![/quote]



i don't know these guys....

* researches *

these dudes?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2256



what album should i check out?

[quote name="FUKKET"]these dudes?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2256



what album should i check out?[/quote]



yep, check out "V - Halmstad" (2006) and "IV - The Eerie Cold", "VI - Klagopsalmer" is due to come out this year... hopefully.

"III - Angst" is also a good album.







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[quote name="Famous Mortimer"]
[quote name="Lumbergh"]perhaps.this so called message isn't nearly as important to me as just the overall music and the atmosphere or emotions that it evokes.[/quote]



i can dig, but to me, i think what separates the good from the great is a binding together of all those elements. to clarify on my original point, i don't mean to say that i think modern black metal is necessarily bad, but rather that it suffers from a lack of greatness.



[quote name="Teignub"]thats a good point. metal in general is having a tough time nowadays finding anything worthwhile to say. the genres been banging us in the head with the "do what thou wilt" message for a long time now. People who i talk to who are up and coming and writing music have all taken a sort of sci fi turn and are sending messages of a more "psychedelic" nature, you could say. do you know what i mean by that?[/quote]



yeah, i agree absolutely -- it's kind of devolved into an ocean of that individualistic sentiment, which provides a natural lead-in to the more ridiculous suicidal/depression themes, which have been prevalent for a number of years now. that to me is absolutely the antithesis of the spirit and atmosphere of the older waves of black metal, which has always had a sort of awe-inspiring quality to it.



i'm not quite in tune with what the psychedelic themes are all about, but certainly, it sounds promising compared to the above.[/quote]



you, sir, speak the Everlasting Words of WIsdom (tm). this "globalization" of the metal scene coupled with the increased effortlessness of recording and distributing material has a kind of "diluting" effect on the overall quality of material released today...



and this depressive "black metal" thing is kinda like the fruital/technical death metal thing... they (try to) copy Suffocation without really "getting it" (much like suffo themselves nowadays ), just like the former are trying to copy Burzum (and strid and forgotten woods...) and failing worse than cryptopsy on a regular basis. both have some quality artists, but the overwhelming majority is pure 100% shit and the unfortunate thing is that both subgenres are very popular today, especially young people



also, two thumbs down for Xasthur... the most consistently boring "artist" of today

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Check out Alghazanth



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Their last effort was amazing!!!

someone can advice here a good black metal band but old school style and thras oriented? I mea something between german thrash and venom/bathory/celtic frost

AOD, you might like Watain



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Thanks Lummy, I'm listening them and seems good shit :grimbeard:

ah yes, Watain

I disagree. if they were generic they wouldn't stand out at all.

well that depends on how we're defining 'stand out'

they stand out in the sense that they've gained popularity without much help from the media or other shit.

just the music. I didn't even know of their image until a few months after I started listening to them and

seeing that and some of their live videos made e want to see them even more than I had already wanted to.

I think they are pretty legit in what they do as well.

Watain sucks balls.



Edit: Great balls of fire! haha awesome chili cheese fries. 8)