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Posted: **20 Aug 2009, 10:16**

I know a few things he uses

Marshall JCM 900

TC Electronic G Major Guitar Effects Processor http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=153002

Morley Steve Vai Bad Horsie Wah Pedal (i think)

This is a picture he posted on myspace that shows a good shot of his most recent setup. You can see G Major Processor on the top, some kind of rat distortion thing under that, and the rest I can't identify.

Older picture..

Posted: **20 Aug 2009, 12:36**

Yea, the only thing I know is what's on his myspace andwhat he mentions in interviews. Maybe Void knows

Posted: **20 Aug 2009, 17:41**

Morley Bad Horsie, MXR Phase 90, I don't know what is green thing.

From Guitar 6 interview, after Heretic was released:

What kind of gear and effects did you use on the new album?

As with all the other recorded we made I use 2 Marshall JCM 900 high gain dual reverb amps and classic 1960s bottom cabs. For my basic tone I use the Rat distortion and a Rane EQ. Guitar into Rat into Rane into Amp. As for FXs I have a Univibe, MXR Phase 90, and a Morely Bad Horse WOW WOW, all of these go in front of the Rat. I have the Univibe on a midi effects loop to go in and out of the chain via midi because the Univibe is a nasty, leaky box. I use the Eventide H3000s in my rack, via the left and right effects sends/returns from my amps, to create the Stereo Imaging that builds the Lava Landscapes. I use the H3000s for my stereo delays and other cool textures. I got all kinds of guitars that have custom pickups and wiring for my solos, single coil pickups and /or humbuckers with split coil tap, phase switch. All kinds of tone options there in combining different pickups and electronics. Last but not least I swear by Mic_ing Technologies Mic_ing Techniques. Such innovative ideas as the Anti-Vacuum Culture and Wind Rift Mic_ing Techniques.These texturing tools are used all over this new cd as well as also used on Formulas Fatal to the Flesh and Gateways to Annihilation. Just listen the the solo in the first track on Heretic "Cleansed in Pestilence". I used the Anti-Vacuum Culture Mic_ing Technique on the right channel/speaker and the Wind Rift on the left channel/speaker. There are no "normal" microphone setups for that solo at all, and there are many other uses of the special Texturing throughout the Heretic cd.

Posted: **21 Aug 2009, 21:26**

[quote name="Gumbo72203"]oh shit thank you SO much for that rack picture!!!! YOU CAN SEE HIS RAT SETTINGS!!!!!!!!!!!

thats crazy interesting, because he has the distortion level set only at like, 10 o clock, which isn't even 50%.... So maybe he plays both of the 2 together to get that sound, or maybe he actually plays them through the distortion channel on his JCM900's.

if only i could see THOSE settings......[/quote]

Rat like you saw (level/gain almost maxxed, EQ flat with maximum gain level boost. Crunch channel (A) pre-amp gain maxxed, bass 6/7, mids 5, treble 4, presence depending on room.

So basicly rat as a clean boost, EQ as a clean boost front ending the marshall set to a crunch. Very clean indead, with lotsa punch.

Posted: **28 Aug 2009, 04:56**

[quote name="Gumbo72203"]so you think that he's got the Marshalls set on the overdrive channel, then? In a sense, he's using the Rat like a Tubescreamer then....[/quote]

Yah totally, we used to do this in Divine Rapture. We'd drive the preamp with our Rat pedals but keep in mind lot of these bands get their equipment mod'ed man. It's usually not straight off the shelf stuff

Posted: **29 Aug 2009, 00:01**

[quote name="Gumbo72203"]so you think that he's got the Marshalls set on the overdrive channel, then? In a sense, he's using the Rat like a Tubescreamer then....[/quote]

I do not think, I know. We played with them. I saw the exact settings.

Also i've talked to Erik a quite few times about the sound. And Punchy came to hang out in our dressing room and he explaned a lot also.

There is NO noise gate btw. They punch the rat in and out during songs, and in breaks. (Erik was extremely quick and accurate in this)

The gear is pretty much stock. Trey uses a splitter cable to split his signal to both heads.

So he doesn't slave one head from the other.

A lot of the low-end doesn't come from the amps, most of it comes from the front of house.

Trey has sized down his rack significantly. The Rane -EQ is gone. He uses a Boss pedal now.

EriK used the stomp version of the Rat, Trey the rack one.

Posted: **29 Aug 2009, 17:57**

hey uni, did u get to see HE after all or not?

erik told me (over email) that it was one, if not the, best show of the tour. Such a pity I couldn't attend.

Posted: **29 Aug 2009, 18:01**

[quote name="Void"]hey uni, did u get to see HE after all or not?

erik told me (over email) that it was one, if not the, best show of the tour. Such a pity I couldn't attend.[/quote]

No, i didn't make it (thanks to my job....) Milan did though. He liked it a lot, but he said the older lineup had a more fruital stage presence...

Posted: **29 Aug 2009, 18:08**

[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="Void"]hey uni, did u get to see HE after all or not?

erik told me (over email) that it was one, if not the, best show of the tour. Such a pity I couldn't attend.[/quote]

No, i didn't make it (thanks to my job....) Milan did though. He liked it a lot, but he said the older lineup had a more fruital stage presence...[/quote]

Well, we all know that. Shaune couldn't be on this tour though, so they were a 3 piece again. Erik still found this more natural, which is understandable after all those years as a 3 piece.

Posted: **29 Aug 2009, 18:10**

I really like them as three piece... Raw and fruital. Just the way metal should be.. Savage!

Posted: **29 Aug 2009, 18:12**

yah I agree, but hearing those harmonies live is also great! I do think Shaune is a great guitar player.

but it still feels a little weird seeing 4 guys on stage, being Hate Eternal...

btw, Tim never played with them live right? Only did the CTT recordings?

Posted: **30 Aug 2009, 01:30**

[quote name="Void"]yah I agree, but hearing those harmonies live is also great! I do think Shaune is a great guitar player.

but it still feels a little weird seeing 4 guys on stage, being Hate Eternal...

btw, Tim never played with them live right? Only did the CTT recordings?[/quote]

I know he did the demo also... But I only saw them with derek and Reno. Maybe Tim did some US gigs in the early days...

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 01:44**

I've always liked that Hamer Flying V guitar of his...the one shown on the back of the Entangled In Chaos CD case. I think that's his only fixed bridge guitar but I'm not sure.

A bit off topic but...I wonder whatever happened to Erik's Gibson Explorer...and Thor needs to stop whoring those

ish Dimebag guitars and go back to his Warlock.

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 05:52**

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 07:44**

[quote name="Trypticon"]

[quote name="shadowalk"]

..and Thor needs to stop whoring those

ish Dimebag guitars and go back to his Warlock.[/quote]

yep

[/quote]

his red warlock was pretty cool. i hate that big fucking dimebag guitars

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 14:15**

me too.

and the Hamer, has a trem in it

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 15:28**

Don't get me wrong, I love Pantera and I'm a big fan of Dimebag's playing...but gawwwd I fucking hate his guitars. I'd rather get myself a B.C. Rich Beast rather than a Dimebag guitar.

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 16:15**

have you ever played on one? or played a show with one?

the weight dynamics on them are almost perfect, they feel so sexy to stand up and play..my geetarist has a dean dimeslime and it is tits to play standing up

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 19:17**

[quote name="TAM TAM"]the weight dynamics on them are almost perfect, they feel so sexy to stand up and play..my geetarist has a dean dimeslime and it is tits to play standing up[/quote]

I played one of these at guitar center and to be honest it felt like a toy. the weight was nice, not unstable or anything but it didn't have anything special about it. i hated the way the neck felt.

Posted: **03 Sep 2009, 19:18**

i'm not even sure i've ever seen trey with a fixed bridge guitar?

Posted: **04 Sep 2009, 00:35**

[quote name="zim"]i'm not even sure i've ever seen trey with a fixed bridge guitar?

[/quote]

No, well I think his Ironbird, when he first got it, was fixed and needed to be modded for a floyd rose. Not entirely sure...

Posted: **04 Sep 2009, 01:04**

[quote name="Void"]
[quote name="zim"]i'm not even sure i've ever seen trey with a fixed bridge guitar?

[/quote]

No, well I think his Ironbird, when he first got it, was fixed and needed to be modded for a floyd rose. Not entirely sure...[/quote]

No, it just had a crappy trem. Those Riches were kinda cheap guitars. But had solid wood bodies. So they were basicly screaming: "Pimp me" And he modded the shit out of it as we know.

Posted: **04 Sep 2009, 01:32**

[quote name="Void"]me too.

and the Hamer, has a trem in it

[/quote]

And 24 frets which have never come as standard?

Posted: **04 Sep 2009, 05:59**

Posted: **04 Sep 2009, 13:17**

[quote name="Pentelesh"]
[quote name="Void"]me too.

and the Hamer, has a trem in it

[/quote]

And 24 frets which have never come as standard?[/quote]

It was a custom order. Hence the 24 frets. It was ordered with a ibanez (!) trem also....

Posted: **05 Sep 2009, 04:08**

[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="Pentelesh"]
[quote name="Void"]me too.

and the Hamer, has a trem in it

[/quote]

And 24 frets which have never come as standard?[/quote]

It was a custom order. Hence the 24 frets. It was ordered with a ibanez (!) trem also....[/quote]

I was gonna say this; it's a custom Hamer.

Posted: **23 Sep 2009, 07:20**

[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="Gumbo72203"]oh shit thank you SO much for that rack picture!!!! YOU CAN SEE HIS RAT SETTINGS!!!!!!!!!!!

thats crazy interesting, because he has the distortion level set only at like, 10 o clock, which isn't even 50%.... So maybe he plays both of the 2 together to get that sound, or maybe he actually plays them through the distortion channel on his JCM900's.

if only i could see THOSE settings......[/quote]

Rat like you saw (level/gain almost maxxed, EQ flat with maximum gain level boost. Crunch channel (A) pre-amp gain maxxed, bass 6/7, mids 5, treble 4, presence depending on room.

So basicly rat as a clean boost, EQ as a clean boost front ending the marshall set to a crunch. Very clean indead, with lotsa punch.[/quote]

hi lady's ! i haven't been very active since the last mabb ..but i have questions.

the stuff with the gear wasn't new for me but interesting ..what exactly do you mean with "flat" for the EQ ?

and what does he use against all these nasty sidetones from the rat and his several other old b o x e s?

Posted: **23 Sep 2009, 08:17**

Flat eq stands for an eq with all knobs set on their 0 level (there is no cutting or boosting of certain frequencies). For ex. for a Boss GE7 that would be all sliders set on the middle of the "scale". See the pic:

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In this particular case Trey use all sliders set on their default levels, except for the level slider, which is turned to the max.

Posted: **23 Sep 2009, 09:32**

[quote name="Uros"]In this particular case Trey use all sliders set on their default levels, except for the level slider, which is turned to the max.[/quote]

and that pretty much just makes the signal louder right?

Posted: **23 Sep 2009, 09:38**

[quote name="zim"]
[quote name="Uros"]In this particular case Trey use all sliders set on their default levels, except for the level slider, which is turned to the max.[/quote]

and that pretty much just makes the signal louder right?

[/quote]

Correct

Posted: **23 Sep 2009, 23:16**

[quote name="Love of Lava"]and what does he use against all these nasty sidetones from the rat and his several other old b o x e s?[/quote]

Nothing... he stompes his rat on and off in breaks and between songs. There is a lot of hiss and noise going on on stage from the amps. But a good front of house engineer keeps that from coming out of the PA.

Posted: **23 Sep 2009, 23:25**

[quote name="shadowalk"]

A bit off topic but...I wonder whatever happened to Erik's Gibson Explorer....[/quote]

It hangs on the wall in his studio. You can see it in either the HE dvd or a Cannibal corpse DVD not sure which one..

During his last MA tour,he told me he doesn't use some of his older guitars on tour any more. Including that white UV. they are either to valuable and/or irreplacable. Some for sentimental reasons...

I always liked that white yamaha superstrat he had.

Posted: **24 Sep 2009, 08:17**

[quote name="uni777"]
[quote name="Love of Lava"]and what does he use against all these nasty sidetones from the rat and his several other old b o x e s?[/quote]

Nothing... he stompes his rat on and off in breaks and between songs. There is a lot of hiss and noise going on on stage from the amps. But a good front of house engineer keeps that from coming out of the PA.[/quote]

ok so he goes with his guitar into his ground effects etc chain.. into rat.. into eq.. into his tc electronics.. into amps and the univibe is integrated within an extra loop ?! cool

Posted: **13 Apr 2011, 07:32**

Do any of you know what type of EQ he uses nowadays?

Posted: **13 Apr 2011, 11:46**

[quote name="LAVAGOD"]Do any of you know what type of EQ he uses nowadays?

[/quote]

Only that boss pedal for the level boost.

Posted: **25 Apr 2011, 03:59**

does anyone know his exact amp settings on his head?

Posted: **25 Apr 2011, 13:06**

[quote name="LAVAGOD"]does anyone know his exact amp settings on his head?[/quote]

6th post in this tread.

Posted: **29 Apr 2011, 07:34**

[quote name="Skincision"]our lord and master says come up with your own rig[/quote]

This.

Posted: **06 May 2011, 08:30**

I guess I can ask this here:

Do you think the setlist is this way for pure lazyness?

Seems REALLY lame to wack all the 'sludgey' stuff right on the end, like it's tacked on, especially if it's just so Trey doesn't have to swap guitars mid gig.

Posted: **06 May 2011, 08:59**

all of morbid angel have to change guitars to do the songs in Bb, which is why the set is how it is, changing guitars normally takes a min or so which when a show is relatively short does break the momentum a fair bit.1

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 19:41**

[quote name="zim"]

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That BC rich headstock looks a bit different from this one

They may be making it different in 80s ?

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 21:01**

BC Rich has about 35 different headstocks. Depending on country, model, series, year, factory and whatnot.

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 21:52**

[quote name="Uni"]BC Rich has about 35 different headstocks. Depending on country, model, series, year, factory and whatnot.[/quote]

any way to get a close picture of headstock same as that in his instaGIB ?

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 23:00**

[quote name="lava Ghoul"]
[quote name="Uni"]BC Rich has about 35 different headstocks. Depending on country, model, series, year, factory and whatnot.[/quote]

any way to get a close picture of headstock same as that in his instaGIB ?[/quote]

Which version? He's had at least 4 different necks on there over the years.

The headstock on the picture is a big one. it looks a lot like those used on the eighties Platinum series. (not to be confused with the later around 2000 reintroduced platinums)

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 23:18**

Hey uni, I was looking at the JCM900 a few days ago and noticed there is two different versions: the SL-X and Dual Reverb.

Which one does Trey use? Cause the SL-X is said to be far superior.

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 23:49**

[quote name="Uni"]
[quote name="lava Ghoul"]
[quote name="Uni"]BC Rich has about 35 different headstocks. Depending on country, model, series, year, factory and whatnot.[/quote]

any way to get a close picture of headstock same as that in his instaGIB ?[/quote]

Which version? He's had at least 4 different necks on there over the years.

The headstock on the picture is a big one. it looks a lot like those used on the eighties Platinum series. (not to be confused with the later around 2000 reintroduced platinums)[/quote]

Yes the longer and sharper ones, I dont like the BC rich headstocks with looks similar to the ESP ones.

Did the new platinum series headstock looks like the one trey had on his instaGib with inverted headstock ? I like that one too but cant find a picture.

Posted: **20 Oct 2011, 23:50**

[quote name="M.Bison"]Hey uni, I was looking at the JCM900 a few days ago and noticed there is two different versions: the SL-X and Dual Reverb.

Which one does Trey use? Cause the SL-X is said to be far superior.[/quote]

He has the 4100 dual reverb.

The 900 range (100 watt) heads:

- High gain Master Volume MKIII: 2100

- High gain Master Volume MKIV: 2100 SL-X (super lead eXtended with extra preamp tube. Introduced in 93)

- High gain dual reverb 4100

The bad rep the 900 has comes from a silicon diode in the clipping stage. According to purists this should be all tube. However.. the silver jubilee, and various 800's also have this. In fact, on the Dual reverb, the crunch channel is ALL tube. The 900 was also the first line of amps that were fitted with 5881 tubes due to the lack of quality EL34 tubes. Another thing purists fall over... the first ever Marshall amp was coincidentally made with 5881.. they started using the EL34 because it was a cheaper tube. Not because of the sound properties. That was a fortunate side thing.

Ive heard bad 900's and just as much bad 800's. The so called holy grail the 800 #2203 was so inconsistend that they all sound different. A mate of mine had a 900 with EL34 wich sounded like a sissi. My 900DR with 5881 sounded like a monster in a A/B test. Don't just take my word for it Ask Void.... He has heard the amp too.

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