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What are you favorite Morbid Angel clones/influenced Death Metal bands/albums?



Mine are:

Angelcorpse - Exterminate/The Inexorable

Centurian - Liber Zar Zax

Diabolic - Supreme Evil

Hate Eternal - Promo/Conquering The Throne

Krisiun - Black Force Domain/Conquerors of Armageddon/Ageless Venomous

Nox - Ixaxaar

Vader - Sothis/De Profundis



I have only listened to Behind The Shadows Lie Madness by Mithras once. But it had some interesting things going for it. Might make it to my list.

I don't think Conquering the Throne has anything to do with MA. It's so much more fruital, raw and aggressive. Plus the songwriting is completely different.



The rest of that list I could agree with.

I always thought of early Hate Eternal as a speedy version of Morbid Angel. Rutan's songwriting is of course not EXACTLY the same. But don't you think there's a grain of truth in this assumption? Morbid Angel is Rutan's favorite band after all.

Shub Niggurath's Evilness and Darkness Prevails deserves mention.

Luciferion - Demonication (the manifest)

[quote name="Mutilator"]Luciferion - Demonication (the manifest)[/quote]



I used to love that album. But wasn't it more Deicide influenced? I might be remembering it wrong.

It's a mixture of both, but they cite Blessed are the sick as the death metal bible, which I agree on

[quote name="Mutilator"]It's a mixture of both, but they cite Blessed are the sick as the death metal bible, which I agree on [/quote]



Not a bad pick. Have you heard their second album The Apostate?

'clones' is such a nice and respectable word to use, isn't it?

I wouldn't call any of the bands mentioned above as 'clones'. At least not in the way that Anatomia is an Autopsy clone/tribute band. But I would like to hear a Morbid Angel clone band if there is any.

Are you an idiot?

[quote name="Verbal"]Are you an idiot?[/quote]



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What is your point?

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[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]I wouldn't call any of the bands mentioned above as 'clones'.[/quote]



pretty awesome thread title you got there, hoss

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[quote name="Derek Waters"]
[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]I wouldn't call any of the bands mentioned above as 'clones'.[/quote]



pretty awesome thread title you got there, hoss[/quote]



This reminds me of the bully in the yard who hits the other kids with his plastic shovel. In reality he just wants to be part of the games being played. But he doesn't have the social skills to express himself.



No reason to start a war. Let's talk music instead.

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I don't think you know this but the ex-guitarist from Angel Corpse posts on this board. I don't think he would be very happy about this thread title.

[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]
[quote name="Mutilator"]It's a mixture of both, but they cite Blessed are the sick as the death metal bible, which I agree on [/quote]



Not a bad pick. Have you heard their second album The Apostate?[/quote]



Yes I've heard it and that's also a pretty good album imo, but half of it is demo material. The re-release with all their great covers sadly never came to be



I'm a fan of Wojtek Lisiki's compositions. I'm curious what he will do next now he has left Against the plagues.

I need to get my hands on The Apostate then.



Maybe only related by theme and location, but have you heard Liers In Wait (ex-Grotesque) also from Gothenburg? They remind me of a more chaotic old school version of Nephren-Ka era Nile. Really raw and evil shit.



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[quote name="IRONMAN"]I don't think you know this but the ex-guitarist from Angel Corpse posts on this board. I don't think he would be very happy about this thread title.[/quote]



I know Gene is posting here and I believe he can talk for himself. It's obvious that this thread wasn't created to put any of these bands down. Read the description before posting next time.



What the fuck is up with all this nagging? Sunday hangovers or something?

Thank you Void.

I need to get my hands on The Apostate then.

Mind you, it's got more keyboards and samples from 'Dark city' in it.

Maybe only related by theme and location, but have you heard Liers In Wait (ex-Grotesque) also from Gothenburg? They remind me of a more chaotic old school version of Nephren-Ka era Nile. Really raw and evil shit.



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I know both bands; Liers had the cover artist Necrolord in their ranks. I think it's ok but not great. I don't hear a comparison with Nile though.



A recommendation is Virulent from my hometown. Sadly disbanded, but they fused Immolation with Hate Eternal imo



Another Morbid Angel sound-alike would be Soulreaper.

Yep Kristian Wahlin.



I had totally forgotten about Soulreaper. I have both albums if it's the band with Johan from Dissection? I remember liking Written In Blood the best.



Try and listen to Liers and then a track of Nephren-Ka. It's really not that different.

Well, Luciferion is the only really Morbid Angel-clone band IMO. The bands you listed are certainly influenced but they do still have their own thing going on.



Luciferion was an awesome band. I met Wotjek at a bar acouple of weeks ago and we ended up talking for 2 hours about Luciferion, and the main influences for Luciferion was always Immolation, Deicide and Morbid Angel. He praises Blessed but he doesn't like anything after Covenant. He also told me some that he stayed at the Morbid Angel house for acouple of days at some point back in the early gloryhole era and he told me that Pete was the only hard-on bearer that he could talk to because Trey was constantly on drugs and wasn't able to have a normal conversation.

[quote name="Mutilator"]
[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]
[quote name="Mutilator"]It's a mixture of both, but they cite Blessed are the sick as the death metal bible, which I agree on [/quote]



Not a bad pick. Have you heard their second album The Apostate?[/quote]



Yes I've heard it and that's also a pretty good album imo, but half of it is demo material. The re-release with all their great covers sadly never came to be



I'm a fan of Wojtek Lisiki's compositions. I'm curious what he will do next now he has left Against the plagues.[/quote]



He told me his plans but I can't tell anyone. You'll soon see

[quote name="Maze"](...) he told me that Pete was the only hard-on bearer that he could talk to because Trey was constantly on drugs and wasn't able to have a normal conversation.[/quote]



Haha that's awesome. You can really hear the LSD influence on Blessed. Some of the riffs... It's so acidic.

This band was so badass!



[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]
[quote name="Maze"](...) he told me that Pete was the only hard-on bearer that he could talk to because Trey was constantly on drugs and wasn't able to have a normal conversation.[/quote]



Haha that's awesome. You can really hear the LSD influence on Blessed. Some of the riffs... It's so acidic.[/quote]



Haha well, yeah. "He was only of skin and bone. His body was mainly of tendons and veins. Really freaky"

Wotjek doesn't have Vincent's masculine sexual charisma though haha. He looks a little bit like a sexy leopard elevator in that second picture. Pretty cool pictures though.

[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]Vincent's masculine sexual charisma[/quote]

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[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]Vincent's masculine sexual charisma[/quote]

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David's pose in this picture is the stuff of legend!

They are Gods both musicaly and visualy - they just DOMINATE above the rest

I can fell powerful energies flowing just from this one picture, without any music - they embody the phrase ''the stuff of legends''

[quote name="Maze"]Well, Luciferion is the only really Morbid Angel-clone band IMO. The bands you listed are certainly influenced but they do still have their own thing going on.



Luciferion was an awesome band. I met Wotjek at a bar acouple of weeks ago and we ended up talking for 2 hours about Luciferion, and the main influences for Luciferion was always Immolation, Deicide and Morbid Angel. He praises Blessed but he doesn't like anything after Covenant. He also told me some that he stayed at the Morbid Angel house for acouple of days at some point back in the early gloryhole era and he told me that Pete was the only hard-on bearer that he could talk to because Trey was constantly on drugs and wasn't able to have a normal conversation.[/quote]



WOW! in what country did you meet him? I know he's Polish and moved to Sweden and lateron to the Usa? I know he auditioned for second guitar player in MA but sadly didn't got the job. Never understood why exactly. Pete thanked him in a MA thankslist btw (incl spelling errors). I'm very curious which new musical endeavor he'll partake on next: Luciferion was great I even liked Lost Horizon and Against the plagues was also great and every cover they did I like as well.

I'm assuming it's in Gothenburg, Sweden.

Btw there are also some bands that got their names from MA songs: Immortal Rites, Maze of torment...

[quote name="Mutilator"]I know he auditioned for second guitar player in MA but sadly didn't got the job. Never understood why exactly. Pete thanked him in a MA thankslist btw (incl spelling errors).[/quote]



When was this?

This are some of the bands/albums that give me some amount of Morbid Angel atmosphere, but otherwise they are mostly great unique bands:



- UNHOLY GHOST - Torrential Reign

- MITOCHONDRION - Archaeaeon + Parasignosis

- DIABOLIC - all albums

- CADAVER - Necrosis

- REVENANT - Prophecies Of A Dying World

- BORGIA - Ecclesia

- ZYKLON - all albums

- EULOGY - The Essence

- REBAELLIUN - all albums

- GORGUTS - From Wisdom To Hate

- KAAMOS - all albums

- BRUTALITY - all albums

- DEAD CONGREGATION - Graves Of The Archangels + Purifying Consecrated Ground

- IMMORTAL - Battles In The North + Blizzard Beasts

- MYRKSKOG - Superior Massacre

- PORTAL - Swarth

- MONSTROSITY - all albums

- DRAWN AND QUARTERED - all albums

- ANGELCORPSE - all albums

- THORNS - Thorns

- HATE ETERNAL - Conguering The Throne + King Of All Kings + I, Monarch

I think Vader is the only group I've heard that really reminds me of Morbid Angel, and that's even kind of a stretch given the fairly rigid European vibe they have (Florida's sound always had more of a groove and bounce to it).



There are a lot of bands that remind me of Morbid Angel for various reasons, but none sound all that similar to them.

[quote name="Mutilator"]Btw there are also some bands that got their names from MA songs: Immortal Rites, Maze of torment...[/quote]



Suffocation.

[quote name="Drum Solo"]I think Vader is the only group I've heard that really reminds me of Morbid Angel, and that's even kind of a stretch given the fairly rigid European vibe they have (Florida's sound always had more of a groove and bounce to it).



There are a lot of bands that remind me of Morbid Angel for various reasons, but none sound all that similar to them.[/quote]



I always thought of Vader as the Death Metal version of Slayer and Morbid Angel as the Death Metal version of Possessed. They do have similar tremolo parts. But the riffing is quite different.

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[quote name="Mutilator"]Btw there are also some bands that got their names from MA songs: Immortal Rites, Maze of torment...[/quote]



Suffocation. [/quote]

Chapel Of Ghouls

[quote name="WhereTheSlimeLives"]
[quote name="Mutilator"]I know he auditioned for second guitar player in MA but sadly didn't got the job. Never understood why exactly. Pete thanked him in a MA thankslist btw (incl spelling errors).[/quote]



When was this?[/quote]





In Formulas he thanks 'Wostek and Luciferium'



I think it were the auditions where Thor got the job

Ok so it wasn't after Brunelle left.

After Brunelle was dismissed, I think Erik Rutan immediately filled in.

[quote name="Mutilator"]After Brunelle was dismissed, I think Erik Rutan immediately filled in.[/quote]



Yep, but then he came back for the Black Sabbath tour and Erik was in and out several times.

I don't know when that tour was, but I know Trey tried him out in the pre-Formulas period.

[quote name="Mutilator"]I don't know when that tour was, but I know Trey tried him out in the pre-Formulas period.[/quote]



I think that was one of the tours they did supporting Covenant. Black Sabbath was apparently one of Richard's favorite bands so they wanted to give him a chance to see if his attitude/work ethic had changed. But that wasn't the case, so he wasn't asked to rejoin.



David and Trey talks about it in Voices From The Darkside #7 from 1996.