Columbus Day

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:30

why do we celebrate this douche? he was a murderer, a liar, a thief, and was batshit crazy. even his shipmates hated him. Indigenous people of America refer to him as their Hitler because he created, supported, and enforced genocidal movements to eliminate the indigenous people he encountered.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:36

Chill okahoma slamma. Lots of people from history were dicks.

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:40

ya but we dont have Hitler Day or John Wayne Gacy Day.

Redd · Post by **Redd** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:40

We discussed whether or not he was a villain or a hero today in history. I disagreed with my class, which means I agreed with you. White people of that era were massive assholes.

And he did not discover America. The Vikings did thankyouverymuch.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:41

What about the Indians?

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:42

i was just about to say that

supa tuna · Post by **supa tuna** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:43

i didnt even know it was columbus day until like 5 minutes ago.

Redd · Post by **Redd** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:43

I meant Europeans finding out about the continent.

Edit: Also the Indians wouldn't have known about it since they were in, well, India.

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:44

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:45

A sure that's a bit arbitrary. Like me saying I was the first in my family to discover America.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 13 Oct 2009, 05:49

[quote name="Redd"]Edit: Also the Indians wouldn't have known about it since they were in, well, India.[/quote]

I thought you might say that.

Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man · 13 Oct 2009, 05:54

[quote name="Teignub"]why do we celebrate this douche? he was a murderer, a liar, a thief, and was batshit crazy. even his shipmates hated him. Indigenous people of America refer to him as their Hitler because he created, supported, and enforced genocidal movements to eliminate the indigenous people he encountered.[/quote]...

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:28

[quote name="Redd"] White people of that era were massive assholes.

[/quote]

This is what I am the most sick of.The entire world it seems hates the whole white race for a small few powerful people's acts.

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:42

[quote name="mabb_"]
[quote name="Redd"] White people of that era were massive assholes.

[/quote]

This is what I am the most sick of.The entire world it seems hates the whole white race for a small few powerful people's acts.

[/quote]

well, it's not like it's not true.

/double negative.

//and I agree that this holiday is bullshit. the only reason we celebrate it in America is because of the large number of Spanish and Catholics that seem to idolize him.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:45

The only victims in this country are Native Americans, most others crying victim don't know how good they have it.

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:46

iunno. have you ever been to East Oakland? its pretty fucking bad out there.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:47

Fuck America.I'm in Oz.Related to a convict.I could complain for days but it's cooler to just hate myself and "my race".

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:49

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:50

[quote name="Teignub"]iunno. have you ever been to East Oakland? its pretty fucking bad out there.[/quote]

I live 45 minutes from Oakland but I never go there.

I know how racist some communities in Oakland can be, that's because victimhood has warped reality for them. It's encouraging because I see more and more people who aren't white saying the same thing I've been saying for years. Victimhood creates racism (the way most understand it) and the media furthers the mentality.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:55

[quote name="Teignub"]

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Only "ethnics" have it bad.

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 13 Oct 2009, 09:59

Are you preaching white victimhood now?

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:02

I am not preaching anything.You choose to see everything in a black & white (or whatever your case may be) perspective.Most people do actually.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:08

I hope you don't reply before this post.Let me put it to you like this.Can you imagine trying to do good your whole life,only to be told constantly you are the bad hard-on bearer?

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:13

Oh so you are saying whites are the victims. Anyone who claims that has hidden racism in themselves beyond what is normal. I used to think like that until I realized "why should I give a shit?" Most people don't see skin color. I live in the bay area do you know how many asian, middle eastern, and latinos there are? None of them see me as a "bad hard-on bearer" the media says I am sometimes but you know what? Most "ethnics"(as you called them) mock the media as much as I do.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:20

[quote name="Noyka"]Oh so you are saying whites are the victims. Anyone who claims that has hidden racism in themselves beyond what is normal. I used to think like that until I realized "why should I give a shit?" Most people don't see skin color. I live in the bay area do you know how many asian, middle eastern, and latinos there are? None of them see me as a "bad hard-on bearer" the media says I am sometimes but you know what? Most "ethnics"(as you called them) mock the media as much as I do.[/quote]

Yes I must be racist.Did I say anything bad about "ethnics"?No.Do I think anything bad about them?No.

Get the fuck outta here "noyka".

You entirely missed the point.And I don't give a fuck which yank city you are from.I constantly have to hear my black friends talking shit about ALL white people.We all know,and don't deny it,if a person with white skin does that they are massively accused.

You know I'm right,and I am not fucking racist.

supa tuna · Post by **supa tuna** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:24

that just makes your black friends racist.

and i think you need to settle down and work on scraping the sand out of that hatchet wound.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:27

Noyka · Post by **Noyka** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:31

[quote name="mabb_"]
[quote name="Noyka"]Oh so you are saying whites are the victims. Anyone who claims that has hidden racism in themselves beyond what is normal. I used to think like that until I realized "why should I give a shit?" Most people don't see skin color. I live in the bay area do you know how many asian, middle eastern, and latinos there are? None of them see me as a "bad hard-on bearer" the media says I am sometimes but you know what? Most "ethnics"(as you called them) mock the media as much as I do.[/quote]

Yes I must be racist.Did I say anything bad about "ethnics"?No.Do I think anything bad about them?No.

Get the fuck outta here "noyka".

You entirely missed the point.And I don't give a fuck which yank city you are from.I constantly have to hear my black friends talking shit about ALL white people.We all know,and don't deny it,if a person with white skin does that they are massively accused.

You know I'm right,and I am not fucking racist.[/quote]

You didn't read a damn thing I said.

I know your point I've heard it many times over, I used to use it like I said in my previous post.

Your black friends are buying into victimhood,a product of the media.

captain twat. IV. · Post by **captain twat. IV.** » 13 Oct 2009, 10:40

...............

Lavabug · Post by **Lavabug** » 13 Oct 2009, 13:20

[quote name="Lumbergh"]

//and I agree that this holiday is bullshit. the only reason we celebrate it in America is because of the large number of Spanish and Catholics that seem to idolize him.[/quote]

I agree with the original premise of this thread but, uh, isn't it the same day he discovered America? Isn't that kind of important for American history? It's a national holiday over here in Spain. I live relatively close to a museum called "Casa de Colón" formerly an inn for sailers. Columbus made a pit-stop there before heading out West.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_de_Co ... Canaria%29

No English version sorry.

Redd · Post by **Redd** » 14 Oct 2009, 02:25

I still stand by the claim that the Vikings were the first Europeans to come here.

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 14 Oct 2009, 02:27

[quote name="Redd"]I still stand by the claim that the Vikings were the first Europeans to come here.[/quote]

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 14 Oct 2009, 02:28

Who was first to discover America after the Vikings?

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 14 Oct 2009, 02:35

how do you define "America?"

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » 14 Oct 2009, 02:36

How do you define "define"?

Teignub · Post by **Teignub** » 14 Oct 2009, 02:38

define: verb- to give a more detailed analysis and extrapolated meaning of a specific word or phrase.

Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man · 14 Oct 2009, 02:44

[quote name="Teignub"]how do you define "America?"[/quote]exactly, a nation is never discovered; it's created.

created....in blood *riff*

zim · Post by **zim** » 14 Oct 2009, 05:04

[quote name="Chaohinon"]created....in blood *riff*[/quote]

Haunty · Post by **Haunty** » 14 Oct 2009, 05:22

I honestly don't care either way about Columbus day. Keep it, ban it, whatever.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 14 Oct 2009, 07:51

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Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 14 Oct 2009, 07:51

:page2discoveredamerica:

zim · Post by **zim** » 14 Oct 2009, 08:28

[quote name="abzu"]:page2discoveredamerica:[/quote]

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Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 15 Oct 2009, 02:19

[quote name="zim"]
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Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 15 Oct 2009, 23:25

Archeologists find evidence of trade links between Europe and North America in the middle ages

The Arctic before Inuit

Archeologist studies ancient peoples of the North

http://nnsl.com/northern-news-services/ ... _09ar.html

KIMMIRUT - An archeologist from the Canadian Museum of Civilization was in Kimmirut in September, studying ancient sites and sharing what she has learned with the people who inherited the land.

Patricia Sutherland, the museum's curator of Arctic archeology, has been in and out of Kimmirut for years, following up on local discoveries which have interested researchers since the 1960s.

"People seem to be very excited about what's going on and the results so far," she said. "I try to take information back to the community.

"The community is involved in terms of kids working with me on the excavation. They assist with logistics; we take at least one elder with us out to the site in the summer."

Seemeega Aqpik, manager of the Mayukalik Hunters and Trappers Organization, said Sutherland found a half of a whetstone nearby in 2001, of a type used by Norse people. Upon returning to the Canadian Museum of Civilization she found it was the other half of a piece dug up in the 1960s. The whetstone was embedded with fragments of iron, silver and gold, clearly not the product of either Inuit or Dorset cultures.

"She's finding out that the Vikings and the Tuniit were trading," said Aqpik. "Artifacts they found are starting to tell a story."

Archeologists call the ancestors of Inuit the Thule culture, because the first artifacts left behind by those people were found at Thule, now called Qaanaaq, Greenland.

Sutherland said modern scholars believe the Dorset people, who lived in the Canadian Arctic before the Thule came from what is now Alaska, are the same as the Tuniit people Inuit tell stories about.

Tommy Akavak of Kimmirut said he had heard of the Tuniit, the people from outside, from local elders. He said they were muscular hunters of bowhead whales.

"I think it's very good," he said of the research. "It's important to know our past history."

All that remains of the Dorset are fish weirs, tent rings and drying racks unlike those used by Inuit. Scholars think the Dorset all but disappeared around 1200-1300 AD, Sutherland said. What happened to them isn't clear, nor what kinds of interactions there were between Inuit and Dorset.

"It's a burning question which has been going for many decades," said Sutherland.

Sutherland has also spent time exploring contact between Dorset, Inuit and the Norse. The Norse, popularly known as Vikings, settled and traded in North America centuries before the continent was "discovered" by Christopher Columbus.

She said she'd like to get the Cape Tanfield site designated as a National Historic Site, since some of its artifacts suggest human occupation going back 4,000 years.

Abzu · Post by **Abzu** » 15 Oct 2009, 23:50

Mesarthim · Post by **Mesarthim** » 16 Oct 2009, 09:57

cat hallucination · Post by **cat hallucination** » 16 Oct 2009, 10:29

i know nothing about columbus and i'm not interested in reading this thread...but i'll betchya that he was a real stud and a leader, like hitler.