Do you believe in bullshit?

[Noyka]

[quote name="Teignub"]the official 9/11 commission report is full of errors and inconsistencies. as is Zeitgeist. Im not gonna say that 9/11 was an inside job, but I am going to say that our government isnt telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth.[/quote]



I agree with you here



What I think with 9/11 was the government didn't take an active part but definitely knew about the planned attack before it happened.



People always use how the towers fell to back up their "9/11 was an inside job" belief but they forget jet fuel burns hot enough to weaken steel and for a structure to fall all it needs is to be weakened.

[captain twat. IV.]

It's abit odd the Bin Ladens where allowed to fly out of America just after it,so they say anyway,I need to look into it more.

[Haunty]

[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="Teignub"]the official 9/11 commission report is full of errors and inconsistencies. as is Zeitgeist. Im not gonna say that 9/11 was an inside job, but I am going to say that our government isnt telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth.[/quote]



I agree with you here



What I think with 9/11 was the government didn't take an active part but definitely knew about the planned attack before it happened.



People always use how the towers fell to back up their "9/11 was an inside job" belief but they forget jet fuel burns hot enough to weaken steel and for a structure to fall all it needs is to be weakened.[/quote]



One of the most irritating things is when they go on about when the plane flew into the Empire State Building in 1945 and didn't knock it down. There's just so many reasons why it's an idiot comparison, it's not even worth arguing with them.

[Abzu]

[quote name="mabb_"]It's abit odd the Bin Ladens where allowed to fly out of America just after it,so they say anyway,I need to look into it more.[/quote]

The rest of the bin Laden family is not like Osama. Many of them are friends of the Bushes and a couple other presidential families. Look at history. Osama was an advisor to the Saudi king before the first Gulf War. He vehemently vocally opposed the US setting up bases in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi king let us and exiled Osama. Osama swore revenge on the US for causing this. Osama is/was very rich from his family money.



Anyway, my guess from here is, realizing they fucked up and didnt prevent the obvious from happening, they shipped out the not-Osama-supporting members of the bin Laden family to ensure important oil contacts were not lynched or something.

[Noyka]

[quote name="HbW"]
[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="Teignub"]the official 9/11 commission report is full of errors and inconsistencies. as is Zeitgeist. Im not gonna say that 9/11 was an inside job, but I am going to say that our government isnt telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth.[/quote]



I agree with you here



What I think with 9/11 was the government didn't take an active part but definitely knew about the planned attack before it happened.



People always use how the towers fell to back up their "9/11 was an inside job" belief but they forget jet fuel burns hot enough to weaken steel and for a structure to fall all it needs is to be weakened.[/quote]



One of the most irritating things is when they go on about when the plane flew into the Empire State Building in 1945 and didn't knock it down. There's just so many reasons why it's an idiot comparison, it's not even worth arguing with them.[/quote]



I've never heard that argument. I can't believe it's actually made

[Abzu]

You'd be surprised.

[Haunty]

Rosie O'Donnell was making it quite publicly during that time on the View where she was going and on about 9/11.



Just size wise, here's the specs



B-25 (the plane that hit the Empire State building)

Length: 52 ft 11 in (16.1 m)

Wingspan: 67 ft 6 in (20.6 m)

Height: 17 ft 7 in (4.8 m)

Max takeoff weight: 41,800 lb (19,000 kg)



Boeing 767

Length: 159 ft 2 in (48.5 m)

Wingspan: 156 ft 1 in (47.6 m)

Height: 17 ft 9 in (5.41 m)

Maximum take-off weight: 315,000 lb (142,880 kg)





And then there's the difference in fuel capacity, building contruction, the difference in fuel, etc.

[Verbal]

[quote name="HbW"]Rosie O'Donnell was making it quite publicly during that time on the View where she was going and on about 9/11.



Just size wise, here's the specs



B-25 (the plane that hit the Empire State building)

Length: 52 ft 11 in (16.1 m)

Wingspan: 67 ft 6 in (20.6 m)

Height: 17 ft 7 in (4.8 m)

Max takeoff weight: 41,800 lb (19,000 kg)



Boeing 767

Length: 159 ft 2 in (48.5 m)

Wingspan: 156 ft 1 in (47.6 m)

Height: 17 ft 9 in (5.41 m)

Maximum take-off weight: 315,000 lb (142,880 kg)





And then there's the difference in fuel capacity, building contruction, the difference in fuel, etc. [/quote]



A boeing 767?!



But if you subtract 67 from 767 you get 700!



Which is also a number!



Therefore it was the mathematicians.



Finally it makes sense.

[captain twat. IV.]

Jordan Maxwell says if you look from space (I'm sure he has) you will find that American's support of Israel is because of where it lies and the trade route.

[Haunty]

[quote name="Johnny"]
[quote name="HbW"]Rosie O'Donnell was making it quite publicly during that time on the View where she was going and on about 9/11.



Just size wise, here's the specs



B-25 (the plane that hit the Empire State building)

Length: 52 ft 11 in (16.1 m)

Wingspan: 67 ft 6 in (20.6 m)

Height: 17 ft 7 in (4.8 m)

Max takeoff weight: 41,800 lb (19,000 kg)



Boeing 767

Length: 159 ft 2 in (48.5 m)

Wingspan: 156 ft 1 in (47.6 m)

Height: 17 ft 9 in (5.41 m)

Maximum take-off weight: 315,000 lb (142,880 kg)





And then there's the difference in fuel capacity, building contruction, the difference in fuel, etc. [/quote]



A boeing 767?!



But if you subtract 67 from 767 you get 700!



Which is also a number!



Therefore it was the mathematicians.



Finally it makes sense.



[/quote]





Aaaahahahahaah!! Win!!

[Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man]

[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="Teignub"]the official 9/11 commission report is full of errors and inconsistencies. as is Zeitgeist. Im not gonna say that 9/11 was an inside job, but I am going to say that our government isnt telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth.[/quote]



I agree with you here



What I think with 9/11 was the government didn't take an active part but definitely knew about the planned attack before it happened.



People always use how the towers fell to back up their "9/11 was an inside job" belief but they forget jet fuel burns hot enough to weaken steel and for a structure to fall all it needs is to be weakened.[/quote]

This whole 9/11-inside job thing ignores the very real and obvious conspiracy of the United States creating the muslim terrorist phenomenon, by bombing and engineering coups in the middle east for years and years and years



Anyone who wouldn't become a terrorist after dealing with that shit doesn't have a healthy ego.

[Lavabug]

[quote name="Chaohinon"]
[quote name="Noyka"]
[quote name="Teignub"]the official 9/11 commission report is full of errors and inconsistencies. as is Zeitgeist. Im not gonna say that 9/11 was an inside job, but I am going to say that our government isnt telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth.[/quote]



I agree with you here



What I think with 9/11 was the government didn't take an active part but definitely knew about the planned attack before it happened.



People always use how the towers fell to back up their "9/11 was an inside job" belief but they forget jet fuel burns hot enough to weaken steel and for a structure to fall all it needs is to be weakened.[/quote]

This whole 9/11-inside job thing ignores the very real and obvious conspiracy of the United States creating the muslim terrorist phenomenon, by bombing and engineering coups in the middle east for years and years and years



Anyone who wouldn't become a terrorist after dealing with that shit doesn't have a healthy ego.[/quote]

Uh, last I checked, Al Qaeda members and the Taliban(and Saddam) were aided by the US to perform those coups/install dictatorship , they weren't the victim.

[Abzu]

We trained the balls off the Taliban because Afghanistan had a strategic spot against the USSR. They also trained some Afghans. Saddam is another story, but we did fund him and Iran at the same time (80s fail).



If I recall correctly, the Cold War had a lot to do with hurt feelings over WW2.

[Verbal]

I know so little about politics.



Like, soo little.